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Mckenna / Kirsop - Northumberland
« on: Monday 04 February 19 17:26 GMT (UK) »
I'm busy researching Kirsops and McKennas.

I'm currently interested in the Mckenna side.

Kathleen Mckenna abt 1927-1993 Northumberland
John Robert Kirsop 1926-2009 Tynemouth Northumberland

Kathleen apparently had approx 15 siblings.

I have her parents as James Mckenna and Rose Stafford.

Could anyone confirm the siblings and where the parents are from?

Any info to get me on the right track would be a huge help thank you xx

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Re: Mckenna / Kirsop - Northumberland
« Reply #1 on: Monday 04 February 19 17:38 GMT (UK) »

Kathleen apparently had approx 15 siblings.

I have her parents as James Mckenna and Rose Stafford.

Could anyone confirm the siblings and where the parents are from?


You should be able to find any siblings by searching freebmd births using surname McKenna mmn Stafford after they married in 1922.  As anyone born after that date could be living we would not be able to post those details for you.
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Re: Mckenna / Kirsop - Northumberland
« Reply #2 on: Monday 04 February 19 17:45 GMT (UK) »
http://www.northtyneside.gov.uk/marriage-register-test.shtml?mode=details&register=NLS35&entrynumber=227

There is a couple with these names who married in 1948 at perhaps a registry office or non Anglican venue.
Conroy, Fitzpatrick, Watson, Miller, Davis/Davies, Brown, Senior, Dodds, Grieveson, Gamesby, Simpson, Rose, Gilboy, Malloy, Dalton, Young, Saint, Anderson, Allen, McKetterick, McCabe, Drummond, Parkinson, Armstrong, McCarroll, Innes, Marshall, Atkinson, Glendinning, Fenwick, Bonner

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Re: Mckenna / Kirsop - Northumberland
« Reply #3 on: Monday 04 February 19 19:07 GMT (UK) »
I wonder if you have the correct information for Kathleen?

Going by her birth date on the death info this would be her birth record:-

Births Mar 1926   
Mckenna    Kathleen    McLear    Tynemouth    10b   351

This is her death info:-

First name(s)   KATHLEEN
Last name   KIRSOP
Birth date 20th December 1925
Death quarter   1
Death year   1993
District   North Tyneside
District number   0541A
Register number   A10C
Entry number   217
Date of registration mm/yy   0293
Ashford: Somerset, London
England: Devon, London, New Zealand
Holdway: Wiltshire
Hooper: Bristol, Somerset
Knowling: Devon, London
Southcott: Devon, China
Strong: Wiltshire
Watson: Cambridgeshire
White: Bristol
Windo - Gloucestershire, Somerset, Wiltshire


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Re: Mckenna / Kirsop - Northumberland
« Reply #4 on: Monday 04 February 19 19:16 GMT (UK) »
None of the info I have is confirmed.

Looking closer Kathleens mothers name may have actually been Rose E Dolan and she married a Stafford then 2nd marriage to Mckenna..

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Re: Mckenna / Kirsop - Northumberland
« Reply #5 on: Monday 04 February 19 20:48 GMT (UK) »
This is the Stafford/McKenna marriage record:-

Marriages Mar 1922   
McKenna    James    Stafford    Newcastle T.    10b   189    
Stafford    Rose E    McKenna    Newcastle T.    10b   189

At the moment I cannot see any marriage between a Dolan and a Stafford.

You may wish to consider obtaining the marriage certificate for John Kirsop and Kathleen McKenna.

Marriages Mar 1948 
Kirsop    John R    McKenna    Nthmbld.S.    1b   864    
McKenna    Kathleen    Kirsop    Nthmbld.S.    1b   864

This would give you Kathleen's age, assuming she gave the correct one, and her father's name.  She should be 22 going by her birth date on the death record.

You may wish to also get the McKenna/McLear birth certificate for 1926 to see who the parents are on that.

I would start with obtaining John and Kathleen's 1948 marriage certificate and go from there.
Ashford: Somerset, London
England: Devon, London, New Zealand
Holdway: Wiltshire
Hooper: Bristol, Somerset
Knowling: Devon, London
Southcott: Devon, China
Strong: Wiltshire
Watson: Cambridgeshire
White: Bristol
Windo - Gloucestershire, Somerset, Wiltshire

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Re: Mckenna / Kirsop - Northumberland
« Reply #6 on: Monday 04 February 19 21:03 GMT (UK) »
Yes definitely think some certificates need to be obtained.

I have seen a marriage in Newcastle
1916

Rose E Dolan
William E Stafford

Could this be a possibility?

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Re: Mckenna / Kirsop - Northumberland
« Reply #7 on: Monday 04 February 19 21:40 GMT (UK) »
That certainly looks good.  Make a note of it in case you wish to order it at a later date.

Ashford: Somerset, London
England: Devon, London, New Zealand
Holdway: Wiltshire
Hooper: Bristol, Somerset
Knowling: Devon, London
Southcott: Devon, China
Strong: Wiltshire
Watson: Cambridgeshire
White: Bristol
Windo - Gloucestershire, Somerset, Wiltshire

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Re: Mckenna / Kirsop - Northumberland
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 05 February 19 14:21 GMT (UK) »
There is a 1927 Birth Reg for Kathleen. Gateshead, Mothers mn Dolan
Siblings
James 1922
Patrick 1924
+ 2 Births Stafford, Mothers mn Dolan
Leo 1916 Gateshead
John F 1920 Newcastle


But a Tree has them in the United States 1930 with no Kathleen with them :-\
Appears to be another Family to me.


James P Mc Kenna   Head   M   38   England
Rose A Mc Kenna   Wife   F   34   England
James P Mc Kenna Jr.   Son   M   8   England
Rose M Mc Kenna   Daughter   F 6   England
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