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Offline Beatle

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Minto Street
« on: Thursday 07 February 19 10:55 GMT (UK) »
Hi

I'm hoping someone might be able to help me with a relatively simple look up request.

Robert Jones and Mary Jones who were married in 1888 at Christ Church, Kensington, Liverpool. The certificate states they were both living at 57 Minto Street. They are not there in 1881 or 1891 censuses.

I'm hoping that the electoral rolls for that address will show either Robert Jones or Mary's father Lewis Jones.

Fingers crossed

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Re: Minto Street
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 07 February 19 15:16 GMT (UK) »
If they are both shown at the same address it’s possibly a “convenience address” to enable them to marry in that particular parish
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Re: Minto Street
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 07 February 19 15:41 GMT (UK) »
just to confirm that Lewis Jones, Mary's father, was deceased by 1888. He could even have been made up to cover illegitimacy.

Do you have Mary & Robert in a later census to confirm their ages

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Re: Minto Street
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 07 February 19 15:45 GMT (UK) »
John White 1889-90 is at 57 Minto Street.
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Re: Minto Street
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 07 February 19 15:53 GMT (UK) »
Thank you John for looking that up. Yes Lewis was deceased by 1888 but I hoped there was just an outside chance he was still in the rolls if he'd only died relatively recently. The trouble is his occupation was a mariner so he could be literally be anywhere on the planet  :'( and of course Lewis could have died at anytime from conception to the wedding.  ::) Robert was 32 and Mary was 31.

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Re: Minto Street
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 07 February 19 16:02 GMT (UK) »
Hello
Robert b1856,Mary b1857.
Roberts dad John Hugh Jones tailor. Mary's Father Lewis Jones a CarpenterBoth deceased.
Might be easier to find Roberts father on earlier census
Lee
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Re: Minto Street
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 07 February 19 16:22 GMT (UK) »
1861
John Hugh Jones b1827 Wales Tailor.
Jane Jones 1832 Wales
Robert Owen Jones b1856 Wales
John Henry b1858 Liverpool
William Charles 1860 Liverpool
Looks like John Hugh married again

1871.
John Hugh 1830 Wales
Mary 1830 Wales
Jane 1853 Wales
Mary 1854 Liverpool
Robert O Jones 1856 Liverpool
Charles 1856 Liverpool
John H 1858
William 1860
Louisa 1862
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Re: Minto Street
« Reply #7 on: Monday 11 February 19 11:30 GMT (UK) »
Thank you hol

Yes I did have those already but good to have the independant confirmation. Interestingly the 1871 census is a real oddity with so many errors e.g. William Charles is recorded as two separate children and there's no record of a Louisa. My feeling is the correct 1871 census should be:

1871.
John Hugh 1830 Wales (I have Marr Cert)

Jane 1830 Wales
Mary 1854 Wales
Robert Owen Jones 1856 Wales (I have Birth Cert)
John Henry 1858 Liverpool (I have Birth Cert)
William Charles 1860 Liverpool (I have Birth Cert)


I don't know who got it so wrong John Hugh or the enumberator (probably the former)



Sorry I've gone off track with my initial iquery  ;D

Beatle
Jones/Bangor / Liverpool
Hopley Cliffe Williams Vernon Done / Cheshire
Hill Mounsey Haugh / Cumberland
Postlethwaite Witter / Liverpool