McNamara/Vandelure

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http://www.clarelibrary.ie/eolas/coclare/history/van_diemens_land_surnames.htm

[Freya Ellingsen]

This is what they say in Tassie... So could those dates found be in the running...

Colonial Tasmanian Family Links Detail

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MCNAMARA, ANN

Gender:   Female
Birth   1835 -   
Marriage/Relationship:   1852 - NEW NORFOLK,Tasmania ( BURKE, THOMAS )@
Death:   
   
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Dates of birth which do not give a place are based upon age at death or marriage and therefore may not be accurate.

@ indicates that the date given for a marriage is derived from the date of the first identified birth of a child to the two people and therefore may not be accurate. In such cases the place is derived in the same way and may not be accurate.[/color]

[wivenhoe]

The Colonial Tasmanian Family Links Detail is an old facility, and the best that was available before use of digitised images. It was only ever meant to be a bit of assistance, and was not result of research by the Archives.

Use this link to see the civil marriage record -  https://linctas.ent.sirsidynix.net.au/client/en_AU/names/?

Catholic Church New Norfolk 21 Dec 1851
MACNAMARA Ann  17 years servant free
BURKE Thomas     27 years servant free

Witnesses Dennis GALVIN and Susan LEARY     All have signed.   W T BOND, Chaplain

Are you still interested in this Ann....and researching her origins?

Can you give details of the children, and death of Ann that you mentioned. Until you say otherwise I will assume Tasmania for all events.

[Freya Ellingsen]

Yes of course I'm v interested as I believe she may come from Co.Clare her mother being Mary nee Vandelure, father was Michael McNamara, I believe they may of came from ?Carrveroe, Quin Co. Clare, I have found two sibs 1. Michael b.abt 1816 2. John b. ant 1822. These families seem to be embedded into Co. Clare. Annie Charlotte from her marriage cert states she was b. 1835? she arrives in Tassie in 1841 as a convict. She marries Thomas Bourke/Burke in 1852 in Tassie as u have stated above.
I have found six children born to this couple. 1. Michael James b. 1854, Italian Creek d. 1926 Dimond Creek Victoria 2. Elizabeth b? New North Folk Tassie d.1890 Waterloo Victoria.  3.Mary Jane b.1855 Geelong Victoria d.?4. Annie Charlotte b. 1859 d.1931, 5.Selina b.1861 Springdalla, Vic d.1869,  Smythdale Vic,William b. 1864 Springdalla, Vic d.1916 Tallarock, Vic.. There is possibly more as u see they moved around frequently....The second Annie Charlotte b.1859 is my line, she married Conrad Ellingsen, any further info would be a bonus...

[heywood]

I am confused now, Freya.
You have repeated your first post, some of which, which seems to have been disproved or questioned in this thread.

For your Irish searches, The townland is not Carrveroe.

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She arrives in Tassie in 1841 as a convict...... Has she a Convict Record number as she is not the one who sailed on the Voyage Ship:Rajah
Voyage No:176
Arrival Date:19 Jul 1841
Departure Date:05 Apr 1841

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[wivenhoe]

This is very confusing. Can you clarify please.  What certificates do you have for BDM events, Victoria, for the people named?

" Annie Charlotte from her marriage cert states she was b. 1835?"
Who is Annie Charlotte? Do you mean Ann MACNAMARA  m. Thomas BURKE, 1852, Tas?

"...she arrives in Tassie in 1841 as a convict. She marries Thomas Bourke/Burke in 1852 in Tassie as u have stated above."
Where do you see  Ann MACNAMARA marr.  Thomas BURKE, 1852, to be a convict?

1. Michael James b. 1854, Italian Creek d. 1926 Dimond Creek Victoria
2. Elizabeth b? New North Folk Tassie d.1890 Waterloo Victoria.
3.Mary Jane b.1855 Geelong Victoria d.?
4. Annie Charlotte b. 1859 d.1931,
5.Selina b.1861 Springdalla, Vic d.1869,  Smythdale Vic,
6.William b. 1864 Springdalla, Vic d.1916 Tallarock, Vic..
There is possibly more as u see they moved around frequently....

The second Annie Charlotte b.1859 is my line, she married Conrad Ellingsen,

When and where did Ann BURKE nee MACNAMARA die?

Where do you see her parents named as Michael NcNamara and Mary Vandelure?

[wivenhoe]

VIC BDM death
1870   Reg. no5651 BURKE Ann   parents McNAMARA Michae   / Mary (Vandelure)   
born CLAR  36  spouse Thomas BURKE.

Can you please list all the information on the death certificate.

[Freya Ellingsen]

Ok yes I have repeated my self should of used quotes, as u said I am repeating my self....
I meant to say Annie McNamara SORRY not Annie Charlotte who is the daughter. (by the way they are both Annie Charlotte's)
Here is Annie Bourke (nee McNamara) death:

Family Name 
BURKE
Given Name(s):
Ann
Sex:
Unknown
Event:
DEATH
Father's Name
Mcnamara Michael
Mother's Name: 
VANDELURE - Mary
Spouse's Family Name:
BURKE
Spouse's Given Name(s):
Thomas
Age:
36
Birth Place: 
CLAR
Death Place:
Registration Year:
1870
Registration Number:
5651
Well regarding the birth being stated as 1835, I ref to Wivehoe email re:The Colonial Tasmanian Family Links Detail is an old facility, and the best that was available before use of digitised images. It was only ever meant to be a bit of assistance, and was not result of research by the Archives.
So the birth date may be wrong...