Author Topic: Identifying My Grandfather, Samuel Sissons in Hull  (Read 2820 times)

Offline linney2019

  • RootsChat Extra
  • **
  • Posts: 20
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Identifying My Grandfather, Samuel Sissons in Hull
« on: Thursday 07 February 19 22:34 GMT (UK) »
Ideas on where I could search please!!! I have spent so long trying to solve this puzzle, I would even consider paying a local Archivist if there is one in Hull - I am so desperate. My father, John Joseph Sissons, was born in Hull in 1915 but when he was coming up to nine, his mother, Mary Jane Olsen died at thirty-two. He was put in to Linneaus Street Children's Home by his Father, Samuel Sissons. Dad was killed when I was a little girl - too young to ask questions and he never talked about his childhood at all, nor his family. The only thing I knew for sure, was his birthday, so I got a copy of his Birth Certificate. That is how I found out the names of his Mother and Father, Mary Jane Olsen (formerly Thackray) and Samuel Sissons, both lived in Hull. I was then able to find his Mother,  Mary Jane's Death Certificate and the names of her family, she was born Mary Jane Thackray in Dublin.  The problem is that although Samuel Sissons is listed as his father, I have no details at all of Samuel's age and when I check in Hull, there is no trace of 8 Warneford Terrace - the house that was listed when he was born. Mary Jane was not married to Samuel Sissons but still married to her first husband - Charles William Olsen and I do not know what happened there, other than my Dad's birth was not registered until he was five months, where his brothers were registered straight away. Identifying Samuel is proving impossible - there seems to be numerous Samuel Sissons in Hull. Any advice would be greatly appreciated - Thanks linney 2019

Offline avm228

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 24,827
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: Identifying My Grandfather, Samuel Sissons in Hull
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 07 February 19 22:42 GMT (UK) »
Welcome linney

I see that your father spent time in Canada?

He arrived in Liverpool on 22 April 1934 from St John, New Brunswick as John J Sissons, 18.  He was a labourer.  Last permanent residence: Canada.

Intended address in the UK: 8 Warnford Terrace, Stanley St, Hull.

Had he been sent to Canada from the children’s home?
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

Offline avm228

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 24,827
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: Identifying My Grandfather, Samuel Sissons in Hull
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 07 February 19 22:48 GMT (UK) »
So this was the registration of his birth:

John Joseph Sissons, mother’s maiden name Thackray, Jun qtr 1916 Hull 9d 555.
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

Offline avm228

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 24,827
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: Identifying My Grandfather, Samuel Sissons in Hull
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 07 February 19 22:51 GMT (UK) »
Mother’s death: Mary Jane Olsen aged 32, Jun qtr 1923 Hull.

She had married Charles William Olsen, Mar qtr 1910 Sculcoates.  He seems to have died in Sculcoates in Dec qtr 1931 aged 44.
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)


Offline avm228

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 24,827
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: Identifying My Grandfather, Samuel Sissons in Hull
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 07 February 19 22:54 GMT (UK) »
What happened to John’s siblings, do you know?

Interesting that the Warnford Terrace address was still associated with the family in 1934.
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

Offline avm228

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 24,827
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: Identifying My Grandfather, Samuel Sissons in Hull
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 07 February 19 23:07 GMT (UK) »
Siblings (half and full) seem to be:

Charles William Olsen, mmn Thackray, Jun qtr 1910 Sculcoates
James William Sissons, mmn Thackeray, Sep qtr 1917 Hull

Any more?
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

Offline Treetotal

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 28,444
    • View Profile
Re: Identifying My Grandfather, Samuel Sissons in Hull
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 07 February 19 23:07 GMT (UK) »
Hi and welcome to RootsChat, I wonder if he was sent to Canada as one of the British Home Children as part of the Child Migration Scheme.
Carol
CAPES Hull. KIRK  Leeds, Hull. JONES  Wales,  Lancashire. CARROLL Ireland, Lancashire, U.S.A. BROUGHTON Leicester, Goole, Hull BORRILL  Lincolnshire, Durham, Hull. GROOM  Wishbech, Hull. ANTHONY St. John's Nfld. BUCKNALL Lincolnshire, Hull. BUTT Harbour Grace, Newfoundland. PARSONS  Western Bay, Newfoundland. MONAGHAN  Ireland, U.S.A. PERRY Cheshire, Liverpool.
 
RESTORERS:PLEASE DO NOT USE MY RESTORES WITHOUT PRIOR PERMISSION - THANK YOU

Offline avm228

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 24,827
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: Identifying My Grandfather, Samuel Sissons in Hull
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 07 February 19 23:10 GMT (UK) »
James Willie [sic] Sissons b 25 June 1917 was baptised 5 September 1917 at St Jude’s, Hull.

Parents: Samuel (a dock labourer) and Mary, of 8 Warnford Terrace, Stanley St.

I see that his death was registered in Claro district in 1981.
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

Offline avm228

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 24,827
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: Identifying My Grandfather, Samuel Sissons in Hull
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 07 February 19 23:13 GMT (UK) »
John Joseph Sissons born 24 December 1915 was baptised at St Jude’s, Hull on 9 January 1916.

Parents: Samuel (a waterman) and Mary, of 8 Warnford Terrace, Stanley St.
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)