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Re: the John McArthur family in Lanarkshire
« Reply #9 on: Monday 11 February 19 00:43 GMT (UK) »
I found that John Macarthur lived on George St , Barony in 1841.  Does any body know if that area of town would have been tenement houses  ( like High St was back then).  He worked as a cotton spinner in one of the mills in East Glasgow.   The photos available of High St were real eye openers for me! 
    The census didnt say the number or the cross street on George, so its hard to pinpoint his location.

If you look at the original 1841 census this should give a clue as to the housing arrangements.
There should be enough info. to give you an idea & possibly no.s not listed on transcriptions?

Sorry but I haven't an incline as to what your meaning is of 'the cross street'?

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Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, MacKinnon, MacPhee

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Re: the John McArthur family in Lanarkshire
« Reply #10 on: Monday 11 February 19 02:58 GMT (UK) »
Cross street is a street that intersects with another street.  He lived on George St, but George St. cuts across a wide area of Glasgow.  If I knew a street that intersects or crosses George , it would allow me to get a better idea of what neighborhood he may have lived in.
    Hope my explanation doesn’t make it more confusing..:-)))
         Thanks again, Annie.....Bert
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Re: the John McArthur family in Lanarkshire
« Reply #11 on: Monday 11 February 19 03:16 GMT (UK) »
This may help?

https://maps.nls.uk/geo/find/#zoom=5&lat=56.0000&lon=-4.0000&layers=102&b=1&point=0,0

Delete the 'X' right side top to continue (a bit odd I have to say).

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South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie, MacDonald, MacInnes, MacIntyre, MacKinnon, Steele, Walker

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, MacKinnon, MacPhee

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Re: the John McArthur family in Lanarkshire
« Reply #12 on: Monday 11 February 19 10:59 GMT (UK) »
Each Enumeration Book starts with a description of the Enumeration District. If you go https://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/guides/census-returns#Description%20of%20ED you can find guidance on these and how to access them.
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AITKENHEAD, Lanarkshire; BINNY, Forfar; BLACK, New Monkland; BRYSON, Cumbernauld; BURGESS, North-East Scotland; CRUICKSHANK, Rothes; DALLAS, Botriphnie; DAVIDSON, Oyne; GUTHRIE, Angus; HOGG, Larbert; LESLIE, Rothes/Mortlach; MENDUM, England; MOLLISON, Lethnot; PATERSON, Larbert; RHIND, Forfar; SANG, Scotland; SCOTT, East Kilbride; STOR(R)I/E/Y, Shotts; THORNTON, Shotts; WADDELL, New Monkland; WILKIE, New Monkland; WILKIE, Tannadice; WYLLIE, Angus; YOUNG, Keith

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Re: the John McArthur family in Lanarkshire
« Reply #13 on: Monday 11 February 19 15:09 GMT (UK) »
The 1841 census entry for John MacArthur and family on FreeCen gives the following refs:

1841   Lanarkshire (LKS)   
Place Barony   
Civil Parish Calton   
Piece 622   
Enumeration District 67   
Folio 170   
Page 5      
Street George Street

Added: www.freecen.org.uk/search_records/5a14eb10f4040b9d6ef246a1?search_id=5c618b114325a6b850dd38de (new thing on the revamped site, links to entries now work!)

Having a look at the 1841 census street index here https://www.nrscotland.gov.uk/files/research/census-records/street-indexes/1841/1841-glasgow.pdf

With the refs from Freecen, we can see that parts of George Street were not numbered for the census.

At least for the moment, a narrowing down to the Calton area of Glasgow.

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Re: the John McArthur family in Lanarkshire
« Reply #14 on: Monday 11 February 19 15:14 GMT (UK) »
You might find this of interest on the history of the Calton area in general https://glasgow.gov.uk/CHttpHandler.ashx?id=32312&p=0

You can get some ideas to the number of references to George Street from the 1838-39 Glasgow Post Office Directory here https://digital.nls.uk/directories/browse/archive/83813358

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Re: the John McArthur family in Lanarkshire
« Reply #15 on: Monday 11 February 19 15:43 GMT (UK) »
Added: www.freecen.org.uk/search_records/5a14eb10f4040b9d6ef246a1?search_id=5c618b114325a6b850dd38de (new thing on the revamped site, links to entries now work!)
That's just about the first thing I've heard about the new site that is a slight improvement on the original one. Everything else is the same or worse :(
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AITKENHEAD, Lanarkshire; BINNY, Forfar; BLACK, New Monkland; BRYSON, Cumbernauld; BURGESS, North-East Scotland; CRUICKSHANK, Rothes; DALLAS, Botriphnie; DAVIDSON, Oyne; GUTHRIE, Angus; HOGG, Larbert; LESLIE, Rothes/Mortlach; MENDUM, England; MOLLISON, Lethnot; PATERSON, Larbert; RHIND, Forfar; SANG, Scotland; SCOTT, East Kilbride; STOR(R)I/E/Y, Shotts; THORNTON, Shotts; WADDELL, New Monkland; WILKIE, New Monkland; WILKIE, Tannadice; WYLLIE, Angus; YOUNG, Keith

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Re: the John McArthur family in Lanarkshire
« Reply #16 on: Monday 11 February 19 15:51 GMT (UK) »
I know, Forfarian  :-\ Miss the old searches and the ease of doing them and quickly viewing results.

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Re: the John McArthur family in Lanarkshire
« Reply #17 on: Monday 11 February 19 16:17 GMT (UK) »
I know, Forfarian  :-\ Miss the old searches and the ease of doing them and quickly viewing results.
You don't have to. The old site is still available at https://freecen1.freecen.org.uk/cgi/search.pl

Rant against the new FreeCEN https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=805264.0
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AITKENHEAD, Lanarkshire; BINNY, Forfar; BLACK, New Monkland; BRYSON, Cumbernauld; BURGESS, North-East Scotland; CRUICKSHANK, Rothes; DALLAS, Botriphnie; DAVIDSON, Oyne; GUTHRIE, Angus; HOGG, Larbert; LESLIE, Rothes/Mortlach; MENDUM, England; MOLLISON, Lethnot; PATERSON, Larbert; RHIND, Forfar; SANG, Scotland; SCOTT, East Kilbride; STOR(R)I/E/Y, Shotts; THORNTON, Shotts; WADDELL, New Monkland; WILKIE, New Monkland; WILKIE, Tannadice; WYLLIE, Angus; YOUNG, Keith