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Ale House at Mentmore
« on: Sunday 10 February 19 22:54 GMT (UK) »

On the Wikipedia page for Mentmore, Buckinghamshire it shows a photo of an old ale house which dates to the 16th century. It says the Varney family lived there, and records at the Records Office, Aylesbury show the Varney's paid 2s a year rent sent to the church, and the family provided ale and meat from their pigs to the local community.
Can anyone verify this please?
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Re: Ale House at Mentmore
« Reply #1 on: Monday 11 February 19 14:01 GMT (UK) »
Yes this looks like it
1853 Kelly's directory
Richard Varney butcher and beer retailer.
The other alcohol related one is the Stag's Head William Roffey so not the same place.
1864 Kelly's he's still there.
1847 beer retailer R Varney  PO directory
He's on the Poll books from 1831.

1871 he's resident at the Beer House
Richard Varney 78 widower butcher Mentmore
William son 49 butcher
Betsey 38 daughter widow

He died in 1874.

Richard and his wife Susanna Wilks were baptists and their children are all registered at the independent chapel at Wingrave
It looks like son William took over the business and remained at the same address.

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Re: Ale House at Mentmore
« Reply #2 on: Monday 11 February 19 16:23 GMT (UK) »
Taken from BucksFHS - Mentmore Transcripts CD.

 Marriage - 30 Dec 1813   by Banns
                 Richard VARNEY otp.
                 Susannah WILKS otp.
                 Witnesses - Bernard Wilks & Kitty Abraham .

Burial - 4 Jul 1867.   Susannah VARNEY aged 73 of Mentmore.
Burial - 31 Oct 1874.  Richard VARNEY aged 82 of Cheddington.

The Stag, was owned by Baron Rothchild of Mentmore, according to 1872 Beer House list.


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Re: Ale House at Mentmore
« Reply #3 on: Monday 11 February 19 22:35 GMT (UK) »


Hi ciderdrinker and Bucksboy,

Thank you both for the information, Richard Varney was the brother of my gt.gt. grandfather of Mentmore.

Best wishes.


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Re: Ale House at Mentmore
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 17 February 19 22:08 GMT (UK) »
The Wikipedia entry for the building contains some errors. It is a listed building and the listed building entry notes that it was originally late 18th/early 19th century but was renovated in 1876.
There is a plaque on one of the chimneys "H de R 1876" i.e. Hannah de Rothschild, then the owner of the grand Mentmore Towers. She built many new estate cottages in Mentmore and surrounding villages for workers on the Rothschild estates and also renovated some older buildings in the same mock tudor style including this one.
The 1851 Tithe Award for Mentmore shows it was then owned by Richard Varney who was also the occupier along with several others.

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Re: Ale House at Mentmore
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 24 February 19 22:34 GMT (UK) »


Greenlight

Sorry for the delay in answering, thank you for your input on the Ale House at Mentmore.

Best wishes