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Re: Samuel J. Urquhart - Alabama - Bloodline?
« Reply #9 on: Monday 11 February 19 21:47 GMT (UK) »
Do you have this? Is this Sam's son? If so, it gives his wife Susan's maiden name.

Alabama Deaths
Name:   Tom Urquhart
Event Date:   01 Mar 1964
Event Place:   Montgomery, Montgomery, Alabama
Gender:   Male
Age (Original):   82y
Birth Year (Estimated):   1882
Father's Name:   Sam Urquhart
Mother's Name:   Susie Hayes

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JXYP-PT5
Cambridgeshire: Billups, Cropley; Derbyshire: Jenkinson, Gratton; Co Down: O'Rourke, Rodgers, Cunningham

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Re: Samuel J. Urquhart - Alabama - Bloodline?
« Reply #10 on: Monday 11 February 19 22:44 GMT (UK) »
A few more things to throw at the wall and see if they stick:

is this Samuel in 1880? If so, he named his first son Henry.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M4V4-8SW

Why do you say he died in 1882 in Georgia? Could this be him in 1900?
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M9DL-ZPT

If so, is this his death in 1923? The image might list skin color.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JXCX-F3T

Are these two of his daughters, in 1920?
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MXD4-XSX

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Henry S Urquhart, 1850, Montgomery County, but it only says "Second District"

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MH5Z-NNV
does the slave owner record have a better location? is it near Dublin, Alabama, where Samuel seems to be in 1880?

a bit of a family tree for Henry:
https://www.familysearch.org/tree/person/details/LXM8-JW1

Have you found Samuel in 1870? Lots of ex-slaves were skipped in 1870, according to what I have heard. And I haven't found him yet.
Cambridgeshire: Billups, Cropley; Derbyshire: Jenkinson, Gratton; Co Down: O'Rourke, Rodgers, Cunningham

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Re: Samuel J. Urquhart - Alabama - Bloodline?
« Reply #11 on: Monday 11 February 19 23:12 GMT (UK) »
I located the guide to the archived plantation records that I was trying to think of. I heard of it as the Schipper Collection.
Long story short, here is the link for what records have been archived for Alabama:

http://www.lexisnexis.com/documents/academic/upa_cis/2444_AnteBellSouthPlanSerJPt7.pdf

shortened, since that doesn't look right:
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01ne9/

edited to add: the long link looks better outside of the editor, but I guess both links work.

I searched the .pdf for  Urquhart and didn't find anything, but it is worth a look through anyway just to get a feel for things.

this is the name of the full work:

Records of ante-bellum southern plantations from the Revolution through the Civil War
Author:    Kenneth M Stampp; Randolph Boehm; Martin Paul Schipper; Library of Congress. Manuscript Division.

availability
https://www.worldcat.org/title/records-of-ante-bellum-southern-plantations-from-the-revolution-through-the-civil-war/oclc/12894903

and I also found this, I don't know what it is.
A genealogical index to the guides of the microfilm edition of records of ante-bellum Southern plantations from the Revolution through the Civil War

availability:
https://www.worldcat.org/title/genealogical-index-to-the-guides-of-the-microfilm-edition-of-records-of-ante-bellum-southern-plantations-from-the-revolution-through-the-civil-war/oclc/53999037

Cambridgeshire: Billups, Cropley; Derbyshire: Jenkinson, Gratton; Co Down: O'Rourke, Rodgers, Cunningham

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Re: Samuel J. Urquhart - Alabama - Bloodline?
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 12 February 19 16:17 GMT (UK) »
A few more things to throw at the wall and see if they stick:

is this Samuel in 1880? If so, he named his first son Henry.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M4V4-8SW

Why do you say he died in 1882 in Georgia? Could this be him in 1900?
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M9DL-ZPT

If so, is this his death in 1923? The image might list skin color.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JXCX-F3T

Are these two of his daughters, in 1920?
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MXD4-XSX

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Henry S Urquhart, 1850, Montgomery County, but it only says "Second District"

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MH5Z-NNV
does the slave owner record have a better location? is it near Dublin, Alabama, where Samuel seems to be in 1880?

a bit of a family tree for Henry:
https://www.familysearch.org/tree/person/details/LXM8-JW1

Have you found Samuel in 1870? Lots of ex-slaves were skipped in 1870, according to what I have heard. And I haven't found him yet.

Hey, sorry for the late reply. I did take a look into the "Second District" and it looks like the Judge Henry Snowden Urquhart is the same Henry Urquhart from the slave census. I apologies about my initial post, with Alexander / Georgia as I had gotten misinformation and was following the wrong branch of the Urquhart tree and hence why I was getting confused. I'm fairy confident that Judge Henry was the Urquhart owner of Samuel in his youth

I couldn't find any additional slave record aside from the 1850 but the Dublin isn't too far away from Pike where I found Judge Henry Urquhart.

Samuel's death date I found was in 1923 and in Montgomery Alabama so that matches up correctly.  Sam's first child I had is James Henry (but Henry can be right as well.) He did have a son named Tom and Sam's daughter is Jane as well. I found a census from 1880 that has Sam living in Dublin with his family, so I'm confident that he stayed around after being freed.

Also, thank you for detailed index on slave and plantation records. Appreciate it!