63rd of Foot / Royal Irish

[susie_q]

Hi
I am trying to trace records of my 3rd ggrandfather.  I think i know the following:

born in Belfast in 1837
service number 2730 in 63rd of Foot
had my 2nd ggrandfather in Nova Scotia and one of his brothers in India
was a sergeant but was sentenced to 4 days and demoted to Private in Montreal
did 20 yrs 291 days service

....BUT

I can't find anything about his parents to extend my family search.  any ideas where i can find these details?

[crisane]

And his name is?  So we can take a look in various places for clues.

[susie_q]

Oh goodness that would help!

His name is Thomas Lappin.  He married Ellen in Nova Scotia and they had Walter H in 1863 in Hamilton, Canada.

i visited Kew last week but wasn't able to find any additional information in relation to his birth

[Cazza47]

Was he a musician, and was he discharged in 1875? found some military records but nothing about his parents.

[susie_q]

Hi

Yes I think he was a drummer at some point and 1875 rings a bell. 

[josey]

Do you know when he died? Do you have him on any censuses?

Sadly. marriages on novascotiagenealogy.com start in 1864!! Would have stated both parties parents.

ADDED: Is this them in 1871  RG10; Piece: 2129; Folio: 75; Page: 28; Stoke Damerel Barracks
Thomas Lappin   33 b Belfast sergeant
Ella Lappin   26 b Halifax NS
Wache H Lappin   7 b New London, Canada
Thomas Lappin   5 b Aldershot
James Lappin   2 b Ireland

[jonw65]

Free search on Ulster Historical Foundation website
https://www.ancestryireland.com/family-records/birth-and-baptism-records-county-antrim-and-county-down/

has a Thomas Lappin, 1839, father Owen, county Antrim.
Might be a possible candidate.
Potential siblings?, spellings Lappin, Lappen, Lappan.

[josey]

https://registers.nli.ie/registers has the baptism 24 Fen 1839 at St Patrick's Belfast, mother Alice Mandile.

Also one 16 Mar 1834 son of Peter & Catherine.

Yes, so many spellings possible.

[josey]

Not really relevant but probably Ellen's death
Deaths Jun 1910   
Lappin    Ellen    64    Salford    8d   20

ADDED: Can't find the marriage on British Armed Forces and Overseas Banns and Marriages on findmypast.

Walter's birth
First name(s)   Walter H
Sex   Male
Last name   Lappin
Birth year   1863
Regiment   63rd Foot
Type   Armed Forces
Country   Canada
Place   Hamilton
Page   23
Archive   General Register Office
Record's year range   1863
Volume   766
Line number   64
This certificate may give Ellen's maiden name.

Thomas' & James'  certificates are here too. Can't find Thomas on freebmd.org or James on irishgenealogy.ie.