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PAMPHILLON.....Coat of Arms
« on: Tuesday 12 February 19 21:40 GMT (UK) »
I have been trying to find a Coat of Arms for the PAMPHILLON family, the family came form Essex but I believe the name may be French going on the spelling....

Is there one for this family surname or am I searching in vain?

Any help here will be welcomed and appreciated.

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Re: PAMPHILLON.....Coat of Arms
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 12 February 19 21:52 GMT (UK) »
It's a common fallacy that there is a coat-of-arms for a surname! ;D

A coat-of-arms is granted to an individual person.
And he, and his (largely) male descendants can use the arms.

So, to use a coat-of-arms, you usually have to prove direct descent from the person who was granted the arms.
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Re: PAMPHILLON.....Coat of Arms
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 12 February 19 22:43 GMT (UK) »
Thank you KGarrad, I was aware of all that but what I am after is a picture of it, I have tried to find one but have so far been unsuccessful..

Thank you for taking the time to answer my query,

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Re: PAMPHILLON.....Coat of Arms
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 13 February 19 18:45 GMT (UK) »
There is one for PAMPHLIN listed in General Armory Two Tabard Press 1973.

Pamphlin (Co. Cambridge) Pally of 6 arg. and gu. on a canton of the first a cross moline sa.

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Re: PAMPHILLON.....Coat of Arms
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 14 February 19 05:35 GMT (UK) »
Thank you Ray, I went and had a look and found a crest for the family.......PAMPHLIN is another way of the spelling for the family.

Thank you again

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Re: PAMPHILLON.....Coat of Arms
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 14 February 19 06:21 GMT (UK) »
As I said before - you still have to prove direct descent from the person who was awarded the arms.

There is no such thing as a "Family" coat-of-arms.

Also note that the crest is the piece that sits on top of the shield - originally it formed the decoration on the helmet!

From The College Of Arms:

FAQs: heraldry

Q. Do coats of arms belong to surnames?

A. No. There is no such thing as a 'coat of arms for a surname'. Many people of the same surname will often be entitled to completely different coats of arms, and many of that surname will be entitled to no coat of arms. Coats of arms belong to individuals. For any person to have a right to a coat of arms they must either have had it granted to them or be descended in the legitimate male line from a person to whom arms were granted or confirmed in the past.

Q. What is a crest?

A. It is a popular misconception that the word 'crest' describes a whole coat of arms or any heraldic device. It does not. A crest is a specific part of a full achievement of arms: the three-dimensional object placed on top of the helm.

(https://www.college-of-arms.gov.uk/resources/faqs)
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