Author Topic: Can someone help me with information about Joseph John Symons please?  (Read 712 times)

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Re: Can someone help me with information about Joseph John Symons please?
« Reply #9 on: Friday 15 February 19 01:24 GMT (UK) »
I am NSW centric, so not much chop with Vic searchings, however, I notice the following and I cannot check the Vic BDM listing to help there as it is down for maintenance until 19th Feb...

Joseph J SIMONS, postal electrician, died Abbotsford 16 June 1938,  Probate 11 August 1938.

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JVCN-7X7

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"Australia, Victoria, Index to Probate Registers, 1841-1989," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JVCN-7X7 : 11 March 2018), Joseph J Simons, 11 Aug 1938; citing Melbourne, Victoria, Australia, series 297, record 621, Public Record Office, Victoria; FamilySearch digital folder 004319410.


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Re: Can someone help me with information about Joseph John Symons please?
« Reply #10 on: Friday 15 February 19 03:09 GMT (UK) »
I think this would likely be the Joseph SIMONS postal electrician... An extra given middle name...

The Age, Sat 18 June 1938
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/206945515
On June 16, at his residence, .... Abbotsford,  Joseph John Matthew Simons, (late of the G.P.O. Workshops),  beloved husband of Susannah and loving father of .... beloved son of the late Joseph and Sarah Simons and fond brother of ....

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/206945602
The Age 18 June 1938
Simons ... to Boroondara Cemetery Kew ... 
Simons .... Members of the Wangate Lodge .... beloved trustee, Brother Joe Simons ...

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Re: Can someone help me with information about Joseph John Symons please?
« Reply #11 on: Friday 15 February 19 03:31 GMT (UK) »

At Kew Cemetery, same plot -     http://www.kewcemetery.com.au/search/FindGrave.php

Grave Location    C/E C 1755

18-Sep-1903      SIMONS, Augusta Louisa               23
05-Jan-1904      SIMONS, Joseph F.O.                       0
15-Aug-1954      SIMONS, Sussanah Alice                 75
18 Jun 1938              SIMONS Joseph John Matthew             58 

The Age 5 Jan 1904  p1
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/197240394?

SIMONS. On the 3rd January, at 22 William-street, Abbotsford, Joseph Frederick Oliver, dearly beloved son of Joseph and the late Augusta Louise Simons,  aged 10 months.

The Age 13 Aug 1954 p10
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/205689338?
SIMONS. On August 11, at 1 Hunter Street, Abbotsford, Sussanah Alice, loved wife of the late
Joseph Simons, and loving mother of Doris. Winifred (Mrs. George), and Joseph.

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Re: Can someone help me with information about Joseph John Symons please?
« Reply #12 on: Friday 15 February 19 04:17 GMT (UK) »
Just to add the Digger Death entry: ( always handy to be able to check these discs even if they are in DOS format!)
Simons, Jos Jno Matthew, father Joseph, mother Sarah Brownrigg, d 1938 age 58 VIC reg no 5102

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Re: Can someone help me with information about Joseph John Symons please?
« Reply #13 on: Friday 15 February 19 04:32 GMT (UK) »
The GPO electrician is definitely the wrong man. My Joseph John Symons' siblings are William, Emily, Jane, Sophia, Sarah, David, Laura and Arthur. Sorry, I probably should have said that earlier.

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Re: Can someone help me with information about Joseph John Symons please?
« Reply #14 on: Friday 15 February 19 06:36 GMT (UK) »
I have checked other family notices but no mention of individuals like the ones i posted earlier.
The Vic BDM been down doesnt help at the moment neither.

Still looking tho  :)

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Re: Can someone help me with information about Joseph John Symons please?
« Reply #15 on: Friday 15 February 19 06:57 GMT (UK) »
The responses have been almost overwhelming. Thank you all so much. Please keep them coming.

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Re: Can someone help me with information about Joseph John Symons please?
« Reply #16 on: Saturday 16 February 19 02:14 GMT (UK) »
I think you should not ignore the marriage cited by matthewj64 between Joseph John SYMONS and Margaret MILLER.

There were 3 children in the Hillston area. I can give you their details if you can't access them on Vic BMD currently. edit  NSW bmd

 It is perhaps noteworthy that some of the children had names also seen in the family of Jos Samuel SYMONS and Jane (nee HALL).

The link to the criminal named John Arthur/Arthur John LEWIS/Joseph James SYMONS exists but is most unclear.

Further to the horse stealing case, the accused offers a few words describing his identity in the snip below.

Narandera Argus and Riverina Advertiser. Fri 29 Mar 1907.Quarter Sessions
The full article
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/130440033


I wonder if both Joseph John SYMONS ( your person of interest) and this SYMONS alias LEWIS were both in the same district at the same time. Lewis states he has not seen this brother since 1891.

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Re: Can someone help me with information about Joseph John Symons please?
« Reply #17 on: Saturday 16 February 19 03:12 GMT (UK) »
I keep coming back to the marriage between Joseph and Margaret Miller too. The children are available on Ancestry so I'll put them back in my tree (I took them out in case I was going down the wrong track).

Thank you for the other documents. It's all building an interesting story.