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Rogers family
« on: Thursday 14 February 19 18:26 GMT (UK) »
I'm carrying out research on my 3x great grandfather John Rogers born between 1809 and 1810 in I believe Donegal Ireland he was living in Preston  Lancashire mid to late 1830s with Margaret Murphy his wife born in Antrim Ireland about 1810  I can't seem to find his parents I have found Margaret Murphy birth and parents but not Johns and can't find when or where they married has anyone any ideas where to look information?

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Re: Rogers family
« Reply #1 on: Friday 15 February 19 22:24 GMT (UK) »
If it's the right family, he is on the 1851 census as being born in Drumkline ( ? not sure about the name), Donegal.
The oldest child John was stated to be 15 on the 1841 census, giving a birth around 1826.  Not born in Lancashire.
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Re: Rogers family
« Reply #2 on: Friday 15 February 19 22:46 GMT (UK) »
Hi Isobel and welcome.

1851 census which Bev mentions shows Margaret’s birth as Armagh not Antrim. Is that the right family?

The place of birth for the couple look like:
John - Donegal possibilities are:
Drumkeeghan   
Drumkeelan
Drumkeen
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_townlands_of_County_Donegal

Margaret - Armagh Dromintee perhaps?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_places_in_County_Armagh

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Re: Rogers family
« Reply #3 on: Friday 15 February 19 22:59 GMT (UK) »
1851 also shows Felix as born Worcester.
This might be his baptism in Walsall, Staffordshire
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Re: Rogers family
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 16 February 19 10:35 GMT (UK) »
If it's the right family, he is on the 1851 census as being born in Drumkline ( ? not sure about the name), Donegal.
The oldest child John was stated to be 15 on the 1841 census, giving a birth around 1826.  Not born in Lancashire.
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Hi thanks, this is my family I've researched most of the family other than I haven't found the birth record of John who is listed as coming from Drumkline Donegal, also his marriage to Margaret Murphy born in Dramante Armagh I put in Antrim which was a mistake, her parents are Ed Murphy and Margaret Devlin, Margaret was baptized 12 Nov 1811, the only child I can't find in my research is  Amee born 1832, she is on the 1841 census but no mention where she was born, may be born in Ireland?

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Re: Rogers family
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 16 February 19 10:48 GMT (UK) »
Have you found a place, Drumkline?
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Re: Rogers family
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 16 February 19 15:20 GMT (UK) »
1851 also shows Felix as born Worcester.
This might be his baptism in Walsall, Staffordshire
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Re: Rogers family
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 16 February 19 16:03 GMT (UK) »
Have you found a place, Drumkline?

Thanks for the question, I have had a look and their is a place called Drumkeen in Donegal also a Drum Townland so this sounds the area I should be researching its difficult deciphering the transcriptions on some of  the census returns.
I have done most of the Rogers/Rodgers which I did back in the late 1990s but decided to take another look and try and find where John and Margaret Rogers married and when, also Johns baptism date and his parents I know that Margaret was baptised on 12 Nov 1811 her parent where Ed Murphy and Mary Devlin in Dromonte Armagh I wrote on my first question she came from Antrim but that was a mistake
The only child of John and Mary that I haven't found after the 1841 census is Aimee born1832 all the other family I have researched fully just these few questions I need to find answers for, I wonder if Aimee and her brother John who was 15 in 1841 already born when they arrived in England yes I have seen the baptism for a Felix Rogers but not sure because it says born in Worcester Worcestershire think when I did my research originally I thought the dates didn't tie up but I will take another look
Thanks for your help

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Re: Rogers family
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 16 February 19 16:19 GMT (UK) »

If I recall, the father's occupation for Felix fits - a Traveller and I was thinking they may have travelled around before settling but that is just a thought.

The writing is difficult in 1851 and hearing and spelling maybe not so good  ;)

I interpreted Margaret’s birthplace which looks like ‘Dromante’ as Dromintee.
The parish of Dromintee is quite a distance from the parish of Armagh where that birth of Margaret Murphy is recorded and then there is the distance between Donegal and Armagh so it is not easy. There is also a lack of records for that time.

Lastly, I wondered if Andy could be Annie or similar (misheard or spelling).
There is a Preston marriage for Ann Rogers and Patrick Farrell 1851 so they should be on the census but I can’t see them. Again just a thought.
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