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Hi people

One of the tricky people in my family tree is Elizabeth Sanderson Coulson, born in England in 1893.
According to family folklore she married and followed her husband to "Asia" where she died. Unfortunately no-one can be more specific as to where she went.

Today I happened to see data on a tree in Ancestry that looks as though it could be relevant.

Russell Flint Maddren, born in New York in 1887, died in California in 1974.
There is an obituary describing the man, although I can only see a tiny part of it.
He was a doctor.

--> His wife was Elizabeth Sanderson Maddren, born 1893, and she died in China.

Not being a subscription holder at Ancestry I can;t see the tree in full and I can't
contact the author of the tree.

Can I ask someone to look into this data and find Elizabeth's maiden name?

If it turns out to be Coulson, can we track the wedding back to England circa WW1?

I am not familiar at all with genealogical resources in the US.
Any help will be appreciated.

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David C

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Re: Dr Russell Flint Maddren and wife Elizabeth Sanderson (what is her maiden name?)
« Reply #1 on: Friday 15 February 19 10:21 GMT (UK) »
We can check for a wedding in England certainly - can't see one but is Sanderson her middle name?

Would the marriage not be in the US?

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Re: Dr Russell Flint Maddren and wife Elizabeth Sanderson (what is her maiden name?)
« Reply #2 on: Friday 15 February 19 10:24 GMT (UK) »
The tree gives 2 spouses

1905 Maria Pavlovna Roumartchuk

Elizabeth Coulson or Carlson

but no info apart from the name I'm afraid.

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Re: Dr Russell Flint Maddren and wife Elizabeth Sanderson (what is her maiden name?)
« Reply #3 on: Friday 15 February 19 10:28 GMT (UK) »
The marriage to Maria is 31 Dec 1935 not 1905 - she was born 1905 so that doesn't tally does it  :-\

Both residing Shanghai China.

If Elizabeth was his wife when he died they must have married after Maria not before.

His WW1 registration card in 1917 says he has a wife so  ???
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Re: Dr Russell Flint Maddren and wife Elizabeth Sanderson (what is her maiden name?)
« Reply #4 on: Friday 15 February 19 10:38 GMT (UK) »
US Passport application for Russell names his wife Elizabeth Coulson Maddren.

Says he was in India 1909-1910 but not when he married but I believe it says for his wife born Detroit Michigan. 

Hopefully someone can double check all this for you.

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Re: Dr Russell Flint Maddren and wife Elizabeth Sanderson (what is her maiden name?)
« Reply #5 on: Friday 15 February 19 10:44 GMT (UK) »
Death for Elizabeth Coulson Maddren 5 Nov 1923 Shanghai China age 27.  Born 15 April 1896.
Spouse R F Maddren.

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Re: Dr Russell Flint Maddren and wife Elizabeth Sanderson (what is her maiden name?)
« Reply #6 on: Friday 15 February 19 10:45 GMT (UK) »
Aha the marriage at last  :D

Elizabeth Sanderson Caulson - father Thomas - mother Mary

22 May 1917

Vancouver Washington

Elizabeth born Detroit Michigan and her second marriage

father born England

mother born Ireland




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Re: Dr Russell Flint Maddren and wife Elizabeth Sanderson (what is her maiden name?)
« Reply #7 on: Friday 15 February 19 11:01 GMT (UK) »
Great work Milliepede

You say you have seen his WW1 record?

What information does this reveal?

Was he stationed in England?
This might be how he and Elizabeth met.





I am prepared to believe that the POB=Detroit is some kind of convenient deception.

The DOB in 1896 is a bit of a problem, however, as my Elizabeth was born in 1893.
Another convenient deception?


Oh BTW, there is an obituary from the San Mateo Times dated sometime in 1970
that records the death of a relative of Dr Russell F Maddren though I can't see what connection
he may have to the Dr. A son perhaps?

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Re: Dr Russell Flint Maddren and wife Elizabeth Sanderson (what is her maiden name?)
« Reply #8 on: Friday 15 February 19 11:09 GMT (UK) »
marriage record - https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QSQ-G969-YSV7?i=571&cc=1534448

under Elizabeth S Coulter (aged 24 years) on anc - and Russell Hint Maddren aged 30 years on the marriage avadavit

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