Gertrude Jones/Hayes.

[cinny22]

Yes ok John, i will hold off for a while getting the Certificate. By putting all the information into my tree, it did tho match up with "D's" tree............but possibly only through Mary F.
Thank you i will email Sarah, altho "A" has passed now i'm pretty sure, but best to be sure.

Thank you again so much............my best to you, Shirley.

[cinny22]

Have just found the "real" name of "A" and to whom she married.

Elizabeth A  is the real Christian name, was born 1939 in Prescot, Liverpool and the surname is "D" that you found earlier. She married in 1958 to the surname "T" that i previously stated.............the husband "T T" passed March 2008, in Liverpool.

Thought i would share this with you. Cinny22

[jonw65]

Hi cinny
Yes, I think we have got there!
I'm getting nowhere with the possible marriage though. It's not really surprising with that surname being so common.
There are a David Alfred, and a Mary F together on the Liverpool electorals after the war, who might be them That is, if he only used his first name on the marriage. Although I've looked at quite a few years and not seen anyone at all with listed them.

Mary F with right date of birth died in Liverpool in 1999.
John

[cinny22]

Thanks John, yes i recon' your right............i will still hold off before sending for the Certificate. I'm HOPING that "D" will contact.
I also found Collette's connection to the same couple. Did you get the message about Elizabeth A?
I see by "D" tree, there were more children. I do hope he contacts, it will put all our minds at rest.

My best to you, Shirley.

[jonw65]

Hi cinny
Elizabeth A, yes I got that, thank you. I haven't seen the tree you mention, but I hope that you do manage to get in touch with the owner and see if they can fill in any gaps.
More children is certainly possible.
If only Mr Davies had been at home in 1939, then we would have his first name for sure, and it would have made things easier for us. That area is not covered by the Liverpool electoral registers, so no help there.
Good luck!
John

[cinny22]

Thanks for all your help...........your the best. Take care, Cinny22

[heywood]

Going well 
I am online here.
Everything seems to be as we found from the original names so that’s good.
Just one thing, Mr Davies would not be on the scene in 1939 - Gertrude was  Mary Gresty  then wasn’t she?
I did get your message Cinny but it was just mine that was returned. I gave Jon the info I had gleaned which he has passed on to you I think.
Fingers crossed we are getting there.

[cinny22]

Good morning Heywood,
                                       I think Mr. Davies should be "somewhere" as he would have been born some were around the same time as Mary Frances 1914 daughter of Gertrude. We think they married 1936, Pancras???
Mary F is there with Collette, in the 1939 but Mr. Davies is obversely working away.
Did you read that i found "D" who i was in contact with via the newspapers? He is on Ancestry and his Father is named and there is a photo! I only hope he contacts me.

You and jonw65 have been wonderful and it has been my pleasure in working with you all and both.
I'm sending for a couple of Certificates..........so i can check the parents. Will keep you all informed, but they will be a couple of weeks.
Take care and thanks so much............Cinny22

[heywood]

Yes I saw D and the brief ‘tree’.

I think I am still confused re Collette and the Davies connection but am getting there. We just need to wait now.