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Lookup request - John Mullins & Martha Cotton
« on: Saturday 16 February 19 12:04 GMT (UK) »
Hello,
Newbie here! I’m trying to tracing the history of my GG-Grandparents who lived in warrington but I’ve hit a brick wall and am struggling to narrow down the information.

My GG-grandparents were
John Mullins
Martha Cotton

I have no living relatives who can give me any details on them, and so firstly i am not 100% sure of the dates.

I believe John was born in 1874 (location unknown, presume Warrington) and died in 1940 (possibly buried near Liverpool?)
I believe Martha was born in 1880 in Warrington and died 1907 in Warrington

They had a son called Joseph (my Great Grandad) who was born 1903 (Warrington?? ) and died in 1984 in Warrington
He married Lily Lester born 1903 in Warrington, and died 1995 in Warrington.

I believe John and Martha also has another son who was born in 1900 and died when he was 2.

John and Martha are on the 1901 census, married and living at birchall street, Croft, Warrington

John and his son Joseph are then on the 1911 census, boarding with another family at 32 manchester road, Warrington - John is now widowed.

I cannot find any promising marriage records for John and Martha. I know Martha’s father was called John Cotton, but I do not know the details for John Mullins parents. This is where I am hitting a brick wall. I would love to find out more info on John Mullin prior to be married - specifically his parents, any siblings he may have had etc

I have tried looking for the GRO for John Mullins birth to find a MMN but there are too many options and I don’t know which is correct.

Can anyone help, or point me in the direction of where to look/how to narrow down the info.

Thanks





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Re: Lookup request - John Mullins & Martha Cotton
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 16 February 19 12:20 GMT (UK) »
Hi

Welcome!

John Mullins and Martha Cotton married in 1899 in Warrington.  England & Wales Marriages 1837-2005 has them and the reference for the marriage certificate is 8c/336.   Married in quarter number 4 so towards the end of that year.

I will have a nose around and see if its transcribed anywhere otherwise you may need to buy the certificate to completely confirm the fathers

*Edited -- it is a wedding at Warrington Registry Office/Civil Registrar according to Cheshirebmd.co.uk so they aren't transcribed online as far as I know so you may need to get the certificate*

Martha Mullins was also buried on 24 January 1907 and is in Warrington Cemetery (UK and Ireland, Find A Grave Index, 1300s-Current on Ancestry) - grave/section number CG SECTION G Grave 263 (as an aside there is a baby called Bertha Cotton in the same grave as Martha - buried 5 July 1884 - so could be a sibling or a niece)
Jeacock
Colebourne
Shepherd
Scotter
Sievers
Knowles
Pritchard
Lilley
Hart/Hertz
Woodmansey
Monnington
Thomas (South Wales)
John (South Wales)
Pearce (South Wales)

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Re: Lookup request - John Mullins & Martha Cotton
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 16 February 19 21:10 GMT (UK) »
From www.lan-opc.org.uk


St Peter Warrington
Baptism
18th November 1900
Thomas Mullins child of John and Martha
49 Birchall Street
Brickmaker

1st March 1903
Joseph Mullins child of John and Martha
49 Birchall Street, Warrington
Labourer

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Re: Lookup request - John Mullins & Martha Cotton
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 16 February 19 21:22 GMT (UK) »
in 1901, Martha's sister Maggie Cotton is with them.

Baptism

26th March 1882
St Elphin Warrington
Maggie Cotton child of Peter Cotton and Mary
born 14th March 1882
abode Winwick Road
Occupation Rope Manufacturer

2nd June 1878
St Elphin warrington
Martha Cotton child of Peter Cotton and Martha
born 2nd February 1878
abode Winwick Street
occupation Rope Maker


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Re: Lookup request - John Mullins & Martha Cotton
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 16 February 19 21:29 GMT (UK) »
How do you know that Martha's father was called John?

Possible marriage
12th May 1861
St Paul Warrington
Peter Cotton 21 Bachelor, Rope maker, Town Hall
Martha Hiles 19 Spinster Pinners Brow
Groom's father Peter Cotton Glass maker
Bride's father James Hiles waterman
Witness James Powell Mary Lamb

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Re: Lookup request - John Mullins & Martha Cotton
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 16 February 19 21:40 GMT (UK) »
As there are 2 Martha Cottons born in Warrington around the same time, you really need to get the marriage certificate to see which is the correct father.

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Re: Lookup request - John Mullins & Martha Cotton
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 16 February 19 22:08 GMT (UK) »
Bertha Cotton - b 1884 mmn Hoyles

Maggie Cotton b 1882 mmn Hoyles

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Re: Lookup request - John Mullins & Martha Cotton
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 16 February 19 22:16 GMT (UK) »
Marriages Q2 1861  Warrington    8c   169   

CARLISLE    Fredrick John
COTTON    Peter        <<<<
Haddock    Sarah Ann   
HILES    Martha         <<<<

COTTON, MARTHA     mmn   HILES     
Q1 1878   WEST DERBY AND TOXTETH PARK  Volume 08B  Page 453

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Re: Lookup request - John Mullins & Martha Cotton
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 17 February 19 09:05 GMT (UK) »
1881
34 Winwick Street, Warrington
Peter Cotton   Head 41
Martha Cotton   Wife 40
John Cotton   Son 19 Roper
Peter Cotton   Son 16 Scholar
Sarah A. Cotton   Daughter 14 Scholar
Mary Cotton   Daughter 12 Scholar
Harriet Cotton   Daughter 8 Scholar
Emma Cotton   Daughter 5 Scholar
Martha Cotton    Daughter 3
James Cotton Son 4 months   
James Wright Lodger 64 Rope Maker

RG11/3794/50/33