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Offline valerie kehoe

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ashfield cum thorpe
« on: Saturday 16 February 19 23:55 GMT (UK) »
Please can someone help check the Bastardy File/s -now 'on-line) -by the Ipswich Records Office?
They have kindly sent me their 'site' -but I'm 'floundering' on it -and cannot seem to find what I'm looking for!  Any help would be greatly appreciated.   (have waited years to get this far).    I have:

James Moss Mortimer b1796  born 'Ashfield-cum-Thorpe to ANNE MORTIMER b1758 (nee Rowe)
George Mortimer*      b1798     "           "                 "           "             "                    "

(Both sons born AFTER Anne's husband Robert MORTIMER d 1793)  Maybe a Mr MOSS involved?

*George being my 5x g/g'father

Any help greatly appreciated.

Valerie
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Re: ashfield cum thorpe
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 17 February 19 02:34 GMT (UK) »
Hi Valerie, How do you know that Robert died in 1793? So far I have'nt found a record of his death.
Robert and Anne married on  21 Jun 1776, Ashfield Cum Thorpe,Suffolk, I can see 5 children born between 1777 and 1791. Anne is still living in Ashfield Cum Thorpe in 1841 age 85.

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Re: ashfield cum thorpe
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 17 February 19 02:50 GMT (UK) »
Hi - I have had Robert's death as 1793 - for years.
 (can't remember where it came from - but I will try and double-check now.)
 However - a few scattered descendants each know of these 2 later chn born to Anne ... the church records show them each as 'bastard sons of Anne Mortimer (Rowe).

Yes - I have their sons Robt b1777-78/Robert 1781/Elizabeth 1783 William 1787 Amy 1791 PLUS: JAMES MOSS 1796 & GEORGE b1798.

Thank you for your interest - Valerie
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Re: ashfield cum thorpe
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 17 February 19 03:01 GMT (UK) »
Just found this in FindMyPast...

Mortimer   Robert   1792   National Burial Index For England & Wales   Ashfield cum Thorpe, Suffolk, England

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Re: ashfield cum thorpe
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 17 February 19 03:18 GMT (UK) »
Thanks - yes - I found it too -on my 'Genes Reunited' site  as 1792.

Valerie
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Re: ashfield cum thorpe
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 17 February 19 04:43 GMT (UK) »
Thanks - yes - I found it too -on my 'Genes Reunited' site  as 1792.

Valerie

Just had a thought, have you got an age with that burial record as it maybe one of the other 2 Roberts.

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« Reply #6 on: Sunday 17 February 19 05:06 GMT (UK) »
Hi - Robert Mortimer (Snr) bc1753  d1792 (just under 40yrs of age)

Robert & Ann's  lst son  Robert b1777 but died 1778
                      2nd son Robert b1781        "     1793

            their last child:   Amy  b1791

Thanks again - Valerie
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Re: ashfield cum thorpe
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 17 February 19 06:42 GMT (UK) »
I've scrolled though the Bastardy Bonds for the 1700's at  Ipswich Records Office online and there no mention of Anne. Not all are online, they do have paper and card indexes but I suspect you will have to pay for a search.
Added..
They were both baptised..
James Moss Mortimer
bpt 21 Feb 1796, Ashfield Cum Thorpe,Suffolk,England
Mother: Ann Mortimer

George Mortimer
bpt 11 Feb 1798 Ashfield Cum Thorpe,Suffolk,England
Mother: Ann Mortimer

In the 1841 census there is a James Mortimer b1796 with wife Frances. Living at Thedwestry, Suffolk. Another James b1796 with wife Sarah. Living at Dennington, Suffolk.
In 1851, George Mortimer born c1800 Ashfield, Suffolk with son James. Living at Wetheringsett.

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Re: ashfield cum thorpe
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 17 February 19 08:34 GMT (UK) »
Thank you so much for checking those files.  I suppose there wasn't any mention of a Mr Moss with Ann Rowe?  I really had thought there would be something/somehow - seeing that the church had recorded them as 'bastard' son/s of Anne Rowe.

'Yes',  that is my 'George' in Wetheringsett - he had/owned a timber mill there.
His brother James is still 'at large'!  Nothing else known. 

Thank you again - especially for your time spent today - and being able to access those files.

Valerie
Lond.//Kent/Surrey  Bryan  
Cork (Dunmanway) O'Brien
London//Lambeth    Small   Muggeridge 
L'pool /Preston.       Kehoe  McDonough  Coupe  
Suffolk                     Rowe   Mortimer   Mowle