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Help with Jim Wilsher 1875 abt
« on: Monday 18 February 19 19:56 GMT (UK) »
So I have tried to trace certificates of birth/marriage/death for Jim Wilsher but have had no luck... I would love to trace and see if he had any children also his direct line.

Jim Wilsher 1875 is the son of Maria Wilsher nee Knight 1847 and Joseph Wilshaw 1844, also being my 4th great-uncle.

I have him in:
Baptism-20th April 1881,
Place-Saint Phillip's, Sheffield, York, England.

Christian Children:
Fred Wilsher 1870
Jim Wilsher 1875 abt
William Wilsher 1878 abt
Walter Wilsher 1881 abt

Parents:
Joseph (Joe) Wilsher 1844
Maria Wilsher nee Knight 1847


Also have him in the 1981, 1891 and 1911 Census...

1881 census-Street Address 19 Slancer St,Brightside Bierlow, Sheffield
Joseph Willshaw-Age 37
Maria Willshaw-Age 32
Joseph Willshaw-Age 15
Tom Willshaw-Age 14
Fred Willshaw-Age 9
Tim Willshaw-Age 6( Jim Wilshaw)
William Willshaw-Age 3
Infant Willshaw

1891 Census-Sheffield, Sheffield, Yorkshire, England
Joseph Welshaw-Age 49
Maria Welshaw-Age 42
Jim Welshaw-Age 16
Bill Welshaw-Age 13
Walter Welshaw-Age 11
Emma Welshaw-Age 6
Henry Welshaw-Age 4


1911 Census-Fair Ground Brampton Chesterfield
Sarah Smith-Age 28
Florence Ann Woodward-Age 15
Selina Woodward-Age 12
Joseph Wiltshire-Age 69
Ryah Wiltshire-Age 60
Joseph Wiltshire-Age 42
Joseph Wiltshire-Age 26
Tom Wiltshire-Age 40
Fred Wiltshire-Age 38
Frank Wiltshire-Age 36
Henry Wiltshire-Age 34
Jim Wiltshire-Age 32
Billy Wiltshire-Age 30
Walter Wiltshire-Age 28
Henry Wiltshire-Age 26
Emma Wiltshire-Age 24
William Smith-Age 26
Madaline Smith-Age 29
Mareny Smith
John Smith-Age 30
Leanor Smith-Age23
Spencer Smith

Any help and ideas on tracing this person would be great!

 

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Re: Help with Jim Wilsher 1875 abt
« Reply #1 on: Monday 18 February 19 20:30 GMT (UK) »
Possible prison record in 1900 for James Wiltshire or Wilshaw a hawker born 1875 Sheffield for being drunk  :-X
Hinchliffe Huddersfield Wiltshire

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Re: Help with Jim Wilsher 1875 abt
« Reply #2 on: Monday 18 February 19 20:37 GMT (UK) »
Possible prison record in 1900 for James Wiltshire or Wilshaw a hawker born 1875 Sheffield for being drunk  :-X

A 3 cousin I email a lot believes he married under James, and having 2 kids but I am not too sure and don't know how to fully prove or disprove the theory.

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Re: Help with Jim Wilsher 1875 abt
« Reply #3 on: Monday 18 February 19 20:39 GMT (UK) »
We would have to find a marriage registration first then check out the certificate to see if the father's name/occupation matched.

Is he unmarried on that long list you have for him in Chesterfield? 

It's tricky having various spellings of the surname  :(
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Re: Help with Jim Wilsher 1875 abt
« Reply #4 on: Monday 18 February 19 20:43 GMT (UK) »
Free BMD index you can check for marriages. 

There are marriages for James Wilsher for example 1912 in Nottinghamshire to Betsy Brumby but without more detail impossible to say if this is your man.

I guess your contact doesn't have any names for his wife/children?  Even a first name would be something to go on.
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Re: Help with Jim Wilsher 1875 abt
« Reply #5 on: Monday 18 February 19 20:50 GMT (UK) »
Death for possibly the same James who married in 1912

1926 Notts age 52 which would pretty much fit the age of yours
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Re: Help with Jim Wilsher 1875 abt
« Reply #6 on: Monday 18 February 19 20:53 GMT (UK) »
That couple may have had 2 sons James and Albert in Clitheroe district. 
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Re: Help with Jim Wilsher 1875 abt
« Reply #7 on: Monday 18 February 19 21:03 GMT (UK) »
We would have to find a marriage registration first then check out the certificate to see if the father's name/occupation matched.

Is he unmarried on that long list you have for him in Chesterfield? 

It's tricky having various spellings of the surname  :(

He believes its this group...

James Wilshaw son of Joseph a hawker wed Winifred shaw at Sheffield 21.8.1893, witnessed by John William nield and Florence Holroyd.

Kid: Mary Ann Wilsher Birth 1894 Church Gresley, Derbyshire, England and maybe another kid called James.

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Re: Help with Jim Wilsher 1875 abt
« Reply #8 on: Monday 18 February 19 21:06 GMT (UK) »
Oh ok thanks that's something to go on and someone has the marriage certificate already then.

He should be down as married on the 1901 and 1911 census.  Have you looked for this wife and children.
Hinchliffe Huddersfield Wiltshire