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Re: Shipping Records for John & Elizabeth Perry from UK to NZ
« Reply #18 on: Wednesday 20 February 19 06:53 GMT (UK) »
The Tapanui John PERRY, sawmiller etc  (and who has several children's births announced in newspapers) seems to have died 1901 and his dob is c 1844.

How have you got back to the 1844 John in Cornwall if you don't have his death already?

Oh No.  the Tapanui John was (according to the cemetery record) born NSW.
currently concentrating on NUTCHER & MARSHALL families, Hampshire.
and family of Thomas ANDERSON a Tailor of Perth, Scotland

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Re: Shipping Records for John & Elizabeth Perry from UK to NZ
« Reply #19 on: Wednesday 20 February 19 07:04 GMT (UK) »
Who was the John PERRY married to Clara Amelia?  He died 1918 about the right age.
they had children. There are other newspaper notices.

John PERRY married Clara Emily COOK 1874.   Might Elizabeth have died and he remarried?
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Re: Shipping Records for John & Elizabeth Perry from UK to NZ
« Reply #20 on: Wednesday 20 February 19 07:15 GMT (UK) »
The wife of the John Perry of Tapanui who died in 1901, was named Margaret.......

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-C9B7-PSXB-H?i=155&cc=1865481


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HAMMOND, Cainham/Caynham, Shropshire, U.K. Otago-NZ.
GALBRAITH, Ireland, Dunedin, Otago-NZ., Kensington-London, U.K.
GRANT, Sct., Dunedin, Otago-NZ., Vancouver, Canada.
GLASS, Aberdeenshire, Otago-NZ.
CAIRNEY/CARNEY/KEARNEY/Ireland, Airdrie, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
O'BRIEN Mary Ann, Limerick, Otago-NZ.
NICOL(L) James, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
SCOTT Thomas, Shetland, Otago-NZ.
MCHARDY/MCHARDIE Euphemia, Scotland, Otago-NZ.

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Re: Shipping Records for John & Elizabeth Perry from UK to NZ
« Reply #21 on: Wednesday 20 February 19 07:21 GMT (UK) »
Who was the John PERRY married to Clara Amelia?  He died 1918 about the right age.
they had children. There are other newspaper notices.

John PERRY married Clara Emily COOK 1874.   Might Elizabeth have died and he remarried?

This John was  the brother of Simon and William PERRY and Mrs Charles KING

https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/ESD19050131.2.14?query=clara%20amelia%20perry&phrase=2&start_date=01-01-1867&end_date=31-12-1930&snippet=true&title=LCM,LCP,LWM,ME,MIC,MTBM,NOT,OAM,ODT,OSWCC,OW,ST,TT,SOCR,WSTAR,AHCOG,BH,CL,CROMARG,DUNST,ESD


Added.  Sorry it was Clara who died 1918, John died 1905 age 59, so still about the right age.
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Re: Shipping Records for John & Elizabeth Perry from UK to NZ
« Reply #22 on: Wednesday 20 February 19 07:32 GMT (UK) »
The wife of the John Perry of Tapanui who died in 1901, was named Margaret.......

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-C9B7-PSXB-H?i=155&cc=1865481


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From the names given in the above will, I believe the following is the marriage of that particular John Perry.........

1867/9907   Margaret   Telford   John   Perry

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HAMMOND, Cainham/Caynham, Shropshire, U.K. Otago-NZ.
GALBRAITH, Ireland, Dunedin, Otago-NZ., Kensington-London, U.K.
GRANT, Sct., Dunedin, Otago-NZ., Vancouver, Canada.
GLASS, Aberdeenshire, Otago-NZ.
CAIRNEY/CARNEY/KEARNEY/Ireland, Airdrie, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
O'BRIEN Mary Ann, Limerick, Otago-NZ.
NICOL(L) James, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
SCOTT Thomas, Shetland, Otago-NZ.
MCHARDY/MCHARDIE Euphemia, Scotland, Otago-NZ.

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Re: Shipping Records for John & Elizabeth Perry from UK to NZ
« Reply #23 on: Wednesday 20 February 19 08:34 GMT (UK) »
Hi everyone
Well I am absolutely confused, need to consult with my cousin for more directions.  Thank you all for this information so far, will get back to you.

jan
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Re: Shipping Records for John & Elizabeth Perry from UK to NZ
« Reply #24 on: Wednesday 20 February 19 08:50 GMT (UK) »
Hi Jan

Are you aware that there are at least three "trees" at ancestry.com site for Arthur PERRY ???

Only one of them (Richardson draft tree), gives the names of parents (John PERRY / Elizabeth nee GRAY -- each of which have two asterisks alongside, seemingly denoting that info is possibly incorrect ?)

In respect of Arthur PERRY, there are "details" which give his cause of death (and prior illnesses);
names of parents (as given above ^);  states he was a "retired storeman" .
The source of this particular info is not recorded. 
[My note:  "Cause of death (prior illnesses)" could possibly come from death certificate ?? ]

Further, there is a note placed alongside of the information given for the marriage of Arthur PERRY and Mary Reid EVANS which reads ... { Certificate ordered 7 February 2019 } .
So by now (20 February 2019), the "certificate " might have been received by the tree owner ?  ;)

[For the marriage registration, it is the bride and groom themselves who are supplying the information (usually a most reliable source).   In the case of a NZ Marriage record of the era 1889, you can expect to find the names of both sets of parents, plus occupations of fathers -- along with the usual details recorded for the bride and groom.   If it is a marriage "certificate" which has been ordered, it's likely it will not show the names of witnesses to marriage.  Our recommendation here at this site, is to suggest purchasing "a printout" (copy of the register entry), same price, but which contains more detail. ]

Perhaps it's worth getting in touch with the tree owner ??

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Re: Shipping Records for John & Elizabeth Perry from UK to NZ
« Reply #25 on: Wednesday 20 February 19 08:58 GMT (UK) »
... incidentally, meant to mention that a daughter (1902) of Arthur PERRY and Mary EVANS, was named Jessie Eliza Gray PERRY ( a 'nod" to his mother's maiden name, perhaps ??)

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Re: Shipping Records for John & Elizabeth Perry from UK to NZ
« Reply #26 on: Wednesday 20 February 19 09:03 GMT (UK) »
NZ School records :

Just a shout out   :) .... can anybody help please with a Dunedin school record for Arthur PERRY born November 1867 ??

His obituary states he was ...  born at Castle Street ... educated at the George Street and Normal Schools.

Cheers
      ~  Lu