Shipping Records for John & Elizabeth Perry from UK to NZ

[janjim]

John, Thank you, we're moving along now, looks like this should be the family now.

Jan

[minniehaha]

Hi Jan,

This seems to be a very confusing situation. We started off in Cornwall, then went to New Zealand and at present are searching in Australia with nothing definitely confirming that it is 'your' family.

I think it would be helpful if you could please tell us the last confirmed information you have about 'your' Perry family. We could then start to work backwards for you and try to fill in the gaps. 


Minniehaha.

[janjim]

Minniehaha

Yes, I am sorry about this, and I apologise most profusely, I was given information, which we now find was incorrect.    Awaiting on two certificates for Arthur Perry and his wife from New Zealand, and when these arrive, will be able to confirm more information.

Yes, my cousin believed the family came from Cornwall, but this is now correct.   I put a posting on this website, mainly to find shipping records from UK, and once again, I state that information for the Perry's coming from Cornwall was incorrect.  My cousin is 85 years of age, and was diving into the deep blue ocean, so to speak, she has done a lot of searching, but gone off the right track on the correct family.

So what we see now is that John Perry was living in Launceston, Tasmania from approximately 1860 onwards, working as an Engineer, and it appears then that the family moved to New Zealand.    For whatever reason we do not know yet, maybe to work in the mines over there.

I cannot tell you any more than that, at this stage.

My apologies.
Jan

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Hi Jan,

This seems to be a very confusing situation. We started off in Cornwall, then went to New Zealand and at present are searching in Australia with nothing definitely confirming that it is 'your' family.

I think it would be helpful if you could please tell us the last confirmed information you have about 'your' Perry family. We could then start to work backwards for you and try to fill in the gaps. 


Minniehaha.

[minniehaha]

No need to apologise Jan. 

Just trying to get a clearer picture. How can you be certain that the Tasmanian John Perry is the correct man?

Again, what fact about the family has been established?

Minniehaha.

[mckha489]

Reply #37

Death certificate for Arthur Perry definitely shows Mother Elizabeth Perry (nee Gray), Father John Perry.

So, next thing i think is to get Arthur’s marriage cert which will hopefully confirm those names, and hopefully is one of the documents already on order?

[janjim]

Hi,
Arthur's birth certificate has just arrived. Does not tell much at all.  Arthur born 16.11.1867 at Dunedin, Mother Elizabeth Perry nee Gray and Father John Perry, no details of ages recorded, a very brief certificate.   Awaiting marriage certificate now.


Jan

Reply #37

Death certificate for Arthur Perry definitely shows Mother Elizabeth Perry (nee Gray), Father John Perry.

So, next thing i think is to get Arthur’s marriage cert which will hopefully confirm those names, and hopefully is one of the documents already on order?

[jonw65]

The cemetery record minniehaha found for the John died 1875 said that he had been in NZ 12 years. Which could be all right for the John in Tasmania.

There would still need to be an Elizabeth/Eliza around to go with him.
If she didn't remarry, a possibility might be the Eliza Perry who died 6 Dec 1901, age 68, and was buried at the Southern Cemetery (no others in the grave?)
https://www.dunedin.govt.nz/facilities/cemeteries/cemeteries_search?recordid=104810&type=Burial

She was the widow of a John Perry, according to newspaper announcements.
https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/ESD19011206.2.25?

There were three John - Eliza Perry births in NZ in 1865, 1870, 1873 (can't guarantee where, but it would leave room for Arthur!)
The last of those three, Caroline, may have married Harry Gladstone Yates in 1893. Later divorce proceedings for that couple. She may have died 1948, age 88 77 

[jonw65]

She may have died 1948, age 88 77 

No she didn't, that one was nee Carr, the widow of David Owen Yates!

[mckha489]

Possible arrival of Mrs Perry & Son from Melbourne 1864?

https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/ODT18640316.2.5?query=Perry&page=2&start_date=01-01-1863&end_date=31-12-1864&snippet=true&title=LCM,LCP,ME,MIC,MTBM,NOT,OAM,ODT,OSWCC,OW,TT,SOCR,WSTAR,AHCOG,BH,CL,CROMARG,DUNST,ESD&type=ARTICLE