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Duncan Burial Site
« on: Monday 25 February 19 01:18 GMT (UK) »
We have Charles Duncan (Seaman and Bushman/Sawyer) aged 23 marrying Margaret Snoddan aged 21 in the Office of the Registrar, Dunedin, on 22 November 1858. I have been unable so far to find their shipping passenger entry into NZ.
The couple lived in the East and West Taieri areas and had children, Alexander 1862, 1866? Peter 1868, Charles 1869 and maybe Mary 1871. Son Alexander moved to the West Coast where he passed away young in 1897.
Charles and Margaret could have moved to the West Coast as there is a death for a Charles Duncan , Bushman, in the Orowaiti Middle Cemetery in the Buller Region.
Son Peter lived in the Clinton, Otago area and Charles and famly were buried at Tuatapere, Southland. I cannot find a Margaret buried with either.
She features in a couple of online Family Trees but the researchers do not have her date of death or the cemetery that she is buried in.
The possiblities that I have considered is that she could have remarried or returned to Scotland but it is probably unlikely that she left NZ when she had children with families here.
Does anyone have this couple in their family tree?
Regards, June

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Re: Duncan Burial Site
« Reply #1 on: Monday 25 February 19 03:24 GMT (UK) »
Hi June,


Family Name   DUNCAN
Given Names   CHARLES
Address   
Occupation   SAWMILLER
Birth Place   SCOTLAND
   Age   77 years
Date Deceased   Not available
Interment Date   21/09/1912
Gender   Male
Denomination   Protestant

Plot and Purchase Details
Cemetery   Orowaiti Middle
Plot   270
Block   D
   Clergyman   REV BURROWS

Notes
   SENILE DECAY
   PURCHASED
   2 95 1619


https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/GRA19120926.2.40?query=charles%20duncan&phrase=2&start_date=01-01-1912&end_date=31-12-1912&snippet=true&title=IT,KUMAT,LTCBG,WCT,WEST,GEST,CHARG,GRA

These items are (possibly) about your Charles?

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HAMMOND, Cainham/Caynham, Shropshire, U.K. Otago-NZ.
GALBRAITH, Ireland, Dunedin, Otago-NZ., Kensington-London, U.K.
GRANT, Sct., Dunedin, Otago-NZ., Vancouver, Canada.
GLASS, Aberdeenshire, Otago-NZ.
CAIRNEY/CARNEY/KEARNEY/Ireland, Airdrie, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
O'BRIEN Mary Ann, Limerick, Otago-NZ.
NICOL(L) James, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
SCOTT Thomas, Shetland, Otago-NZ.
MCHARDY/MCHARDIE Euphemia, Scotland, Otago-NZ.

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Re: Duncan Burial Site
« Reply #2 on: Monday 25 February 19 03:31 GMT (UK) »
Yes. We think that is the correct Charles Duncan.

There was a publican in Westport with the same name and a Margaret Duncan who appears to have been a Hotel owner as well on the Coast. They are not the correct people.

Thank you for the Newspaper article. I had trolled through Papers Past and not found that one. I will add it to the toolbox and see if we can find a reference to Campbelltown Scotland anywhere else.

I knew that I should have tried RootsChat sooner!

Many thanks, June


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Re: Duncan Burial Site
« Reply #3 on: Monday 25 February 19 03:35 GMT (UK) »
This may be the lady you are looking for.........


https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/WCT19130905.2.12.4?query=margaret%20duncan&phrase=2&start_date=01-01-1902&end_date=31-12-1916&snippet=true


1913/7058   Duncan   Margaret   78Y

[Actual date of death: 2.9.1913.]


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HAMMOND, Cainham/Caynham, Shropshire, U.K. Otago-NZ.
GALBRAITH, Ireland, Dunedin, Otago-NZ., Kensington-London, U.K.
GRANT, Sct., Dunedin, Otago-NZ., Vancouver, Canada.
GLASS, Aberdeenshire, Otago-NZ.
CAIRNEY/CARNEY/KEARNEY/Ireland, Airdrie, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
O'BRIEN Mary Ann, Limerick, Otago-NZ.
NICOL(L) James, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
SCOTT Thomas, Shetland, Otago-NZ.
MCHARDY/MCHARDIE Euphemia, Scotland, Otago-NZ.

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Re: Duncan Burial Site
« Reply #4 on: Monday 25 February 19 05:18 GMT (UK) »
I think that South Spit is Westport. Have not been able to find a Margaret Duncan that would fit on their Cemetery Search. I will contact Buller District Council to see if they can help.

I have already been in contact with the Greymouth Council however they could not find a Margaret Duncan that would fit the profile.

Again, my thanks minniehaha

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Re: Duncan Burial Site
« Reply #5 on: Monday 25 February 19 05:35 GMT (UK) »
Here are the cemetery details for that Margaret; wrong one unfortunately, see headstone photograph............

https://e-search.westlanddc.govt.nz/cemeteries/result.php?v=24601


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HAMMOND, Cainham/Caynham, Shropshire, U.K. Otago-NZ.
GALBRAITH, Ireland, Dunedin, Otago-NZ., Kensington-London, U.K.
GRANT, Sct., Dunedin, Otago-NZ., Vancouver, Canada.
GLASS, Aberdeenshire, Otago-NZ.
CAIRNEY/CARNEY/KEARNEY/Ireland, Airdrie, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
O'BRIEN Mary Ann, Limerick, Otago-NZ.
NICOL(L) James, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
SCOTT Thomas, Shetland, Otago-NZ.
MCHARDY/MCHARDIE Euphemia, Scotland, Otago-NZ.

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Re: Duncan Burial Site
« Reply #6 on: Monday 25 February 19 06:39 GMT (UK) »
I thought that I had found the right lady aged 77 buried at Mataura and purchased the BDM record but it turned out that her family name was Gillfillan. A bit like chasing Smiths!

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Re: Duncan Burial Site
« Reply #7 on: Monday 25 February 19 06:51 GMT (UK) »
I have a feeling that East (?) Taieri cemetery records may be incomplete for some of the early years because they were destroyed, by fire? Maybe you could check with the Dunedin City Council to confirm this........

https://www.dunedin.govt.nz/facilities/cemeteries/cemeteries_search?sq_content_src=%2BdXJsPWh0dHAlM0ElMkYlMkZkY2NkYXRhLmR1bmVkaW4uZ292dC5ueiUyRlB1YmxpY1Byb2ZpbGVzJTJGUHVibGljUGFnZXMlMkZDRU1zcmNoLmRjYyZhbGw9MQ%3D%3D

Just a thought, do you have a copy of the 'Intention to Marry' document?

Minniehaha.
HAMMOND, Cainham/Caynham, Shropshire, U.K. Otago-NZ.
GALBRAITH, Ireland, Dunedin, Otago-NZ., Kensington-London, U.K.
GRANT, Sct., Dunedin, Otago-NZ., Vancouver, Canada.
GLASS, Aberdeenshire, Otago-NZ.
CAIRNEY/CARNEY/KEARNEY/Ireland, Airdrie, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
O'BRIEN Mary Ann, Limerick, Otago-NZ.
NICOL(L) James, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
SCOTT Thomas, Shetland, Otago-NZ.
MCHARDY/MCHARDIE Euphemia, Scotland, Otago-NZ.

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Re: Duncan Burial Site
« Reply #8 on: Monday 25 February 19 07:39 GMT (UK) »
Is this your family?

NZ BDM births
1859/8990   DUNCAN   Alexander      parents Margaret / Charles
1860/11781   DUNCAN   Christina            parents Margaret / Charles
1863/18919   DUNCAN   James Grant    parents Margaret / Charles
1862/15336   DUNCAN   Alexander            parents Margaret / Charles
1865/20671   DUNCAN   William            parents Margaret / Charles
1868/33802   DUNCAN   Peter                    parents Margaret / Charles               
1871/37858   DUNCAN   Mary                    parents Margaret / Charles
1871/37861   DUNCAN   Charles            parents Margaret / Charles
1873/35412   DUNCAN   Helen Grant    parents Margaret / Charles
1875/673           DUNCAN   Peter                    parents Margaret / Charles
1877/9270   DUNCAN   Peter                    parents Margaret / Charles

BDM NZ deaths
1860/3835   DUNCAN   Alexander          12M
1875/1057   DUNCAN   Peter            7Y
1876/4671   DUNCAN   Peter                  10M
1944/16142   DUNCAN   James Grant   80Y