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Re: Duncan Burial Site
« Reply #9 on: Monday 25 February 19 08:07 GMT (UK) »
NZ BDM
marriage
1887/2938   Agnes   CARRAN   m.   Alexander   DUNCAN

births
1890/12553   DUNCAN   Margaret Snoddon   parents Margaret / William
1890/12554   DUNCAN   Margaret Snoddon   parents Agnes Catherine /Alexander

You need to see this record -
1877/9270   DUNCAN   Peter    parents Margaret / Charles

It will record age and birthplace for parents.

Can you please list all the information on the marriage document, 1858.

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Re: Duncan Burial Site
« Reply #10 on: Monday 25 February 19 08:15 GMT (UK) »
Very scant information on the Marriage record:
1858, November 22nd at the Office of the Register of Dunedin
Charles Duncan
Margaret Snoddan
Ages 23
21
Bachelor
Spinster
Signature of Parties Charles Duncan and Margaret Snoddan
Name of Registrar: Robert Chapman, Registrar
When registered: 1858 Nov 22nd
The Signature of the registrar.
Witnesses John Curle, Dunedin, Tinplate worker
R.L. Jeffreys, Dunedin, Settler

There is also a certification written across the page that it is a true report for the Quarter ending 31 December 1858.

I will order the BDM for Peter Duncan :)

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Re: Duncan Burial Site
« Reply #11 on: Monday 25 February 19 18:36 GMT (UK) »
Thank you Wivenhoe. There are a Charles Duncan and a William Duncan at Lime Hills in the NZ City & Area Directories 1892-1893. Could be two of the children? I will have a look for a William in the Southern Cemeteries as well.

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Re: Duncan Burial Site
« Reply #12 on: Monday 25 February 19 19:15 GMT (UK) »
Interestingly Peter Duncan aged 62 at the Andersons Bay Dunedin Cemetery has the same styled headstone as William aged 86 in Invercargill. Just an oblong block with the word Duncan on it. The Alexander Duncan family are based in the Southland area as the mother Agnes Carran came from the Fortrose area. It appears that she moved back there when her husband died.

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Re: Duncan Burial Site
« Reply #13 on: Monday 25 February 19 20:56 GMT (UK) »
"... Charles Duncan (Seaman and Bushman/Sawyer) "

Is this how Charles describes himself on the marriage record, 1858?

If you are adding this information, can you give the sources, and occasions (dates / places) where Charles is a seaman, and a bushman/sawyer.

Are you descended from one of the children of Charles and Margaret?

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Re: Duncan Burial Site
« Reply #14 on: Tuesday 26 February 19 08:07 GMT (UK) »
Extended family. The person that provided the information could not be contacted today, I will try again tomorrow. The Marriage record just has Batchelor.

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Re: Duncan Burial Site
« Reply #15 on: Tuesday 26 February 19 09:32 GMT (UK) »
You have given this information to a forum to work with -

"...The couple lived in the East and West Taieri areas..."
When / how do you see them......BDM records....electoral rolls.....newpaper articles....what?


"..Son Alexander moved to the West Coast where he passed away  1897"
Do you have this death document?

"...Son Peter lived in the Clinton, Otago area..."
When / how do you see him......BDM records....electoral rolls.....newpaper articles....what?

"... Charles and famly were buried at Tuatapere, Southland."
Can you please identify his death date, and his wife and children.

Bushman / sawyer are closely related occupations. Seaman is quite different, and opens up other possibilities for the life of Charles DUNCAN.

DUNCAN is a very ordinary family name in a country of Scottish immigrants.

Have you, personally, sourced any of this information that you have given?. If it is all from another researcher, you need to find out where this information comes from.

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Re: Duncan Burial Site
« Reply #16 on: Tuesday 26 February 19 18:32 GMT (UK) »
I have personally checked/sourced the information. Our challenge is finding the burial place of Margaret Duncan. In 2006 15 Death Records for Margaret Duncan were checked. In 2019 a further 2 have been checked unsuccessfully.

They appear to be in Census records however with the scant information in Census records and the number of Charles and Margaret Duncan's it is only family lore that gives some indication of the trail.

Birthplace of the children:  East Taeiri and West Taeiri
Electoral Roles 1887 Awarua, Charles Duncan, Clifton, Bushman (also a James Duncan)
1893 Invercargill, Charles Duncan Clarendon, Bushman, Margaret, Domestic
1894 Invercargill, Charles Duncan, Clarendon, Residential, Bushman
1905/1906 Grey, Charles Duncan, Coal Creek, Bushman Margaret Duncan Married
1908 Grey, Charles Duncan, Coal Creek, Bushman Margaret Duncan Married
1911 Motueka-Nelson Charles Duncan, Karamea, Bushman
1858 - Marriage Record held - Charles Duncan 23 Occpn Seaman
1912 - Death Record Charles Duncan (1955 Buller) Died 19th Sept 1912,
1897 Alexander, Coroners Report and Grave site

Thank you for your interest.

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Re: Duncan Burial Site
« Reply #17 on: Wednesday 27 February 19 01:17 GMT (UK) »

1871/37861   DUNCAN   Charles            parents Margaret / Charles

NZ BDM
1898/4865    Charles   DUNCAN  marr.  Ethel Cooper BULMAN   

NZ BDM births
1899/12906   DUNCAN   Fanny Margaret           parents  Ethel Cooper / Charles   
1900/4323   DUNCAN   Charles Alexander   parents  Ethel   / Charles   
1901/10502   DUNCAN   Dora Ellen                   parents  Ethel Cooper / Charles   
1902/11929   DUNCAN   Ethel Ina                   parents  Ethel   / Charles   
1905/8699   DUNCAN   Christina Daisy           parents  Ethel   / Charles   
1907/18508   DUNCAN   Hilda Constance           parents  Ethel Cooper / Charles   
1908/16886   DUNCAN   Douglas Henry           parents  Ethel Cooper / Charles
1914/29345   DUNCAN   Garnet Grant           parents  Ethel Cooper / Charles

NZ BDM death
1943/27327   DUNCAN   Ethel Cooper   63Y



Possibly the family of William DUNCAN  b. 1865.
BDM NZ
1888/3519   Margaret   MONCRIEFF  marr.   William   DUNCAN

BDM NZ births
1890/12553   DUNCAN   Margaret Snoddon           parents Margaret / William
1892/4717   DUNCAN   Emily Stephens                   parents Margaret / William
1895/17046   DUNCAN   William George Raymond    parents  Margaret Carston / William
1898/17224   DUNCAN   Gilbert Alexander           parents Margaret / William
1900/3585   DUNCAN   Ellen Logan                   parents Margaret / William
1903/19764   DUNCAN   Christina May                   parents Margaret / William
1908/4049   DUNCAN   Charles Herbert Trever        parents  Margaret Carson / William
1911/20981   DUNCAN   Leslie James                   parents  Margaret Carson / William   


BDM NZ marriages
1909/4213   Margaret Sneddon  DUNCAN  marr. Jonathan Thomas Stephen SMITH