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Re: Marriage date of Edward FUNNELL and Elizabeth NEWNHAM
« Reply #9 on: Monday 25 February 19 16:39 GMT (UK) »
1851 census Perryman's Cottage Burwash
John Relf 27  ag lab. born Burwash
Fanny 21  born Brightling
John Relf 3 born Burwash
Edward Funnell 55 widow father in law ag lab. born Heathfield.

This must be yours

They are (I'm descended from Fanny's brother Charles), but I'm really trying to find Elizabeth's origin, which has stumped me for nearly 20 years. Some people seem to think she was from Fletching and the daughter of Richard Newnham and Sarah Gammon, and they certainly had a daughter of that name, but I'm always on the lookout for more proof.

Martin
BKM/OXF: Harvey, Broughton, Goldswain, Braden, Ridgley, Wheeler, Lunnon, Dean, Austin, Franklin, Baldwin, Blackwell, Brooks, Ashby, East, Goodchild, Loosley, Stratford, Newell, Johnson, Bailey, Hobbs
BRK/OXF: Maskell, Waite, Ilsley, Harwood, Fuce, Lookman, Patey
SSX: Funnell, Hollengam, Gilbert, Ellis, Marchant, Harmer, Godfrey, Stoneham, Percy, Lavender
MDX/LDN/HRT: Seywell, Neville, Woods
KEN: Weller, Bishop, Friday, Maynard
ENG: Pewtress
Romnichal: Evans, Alford, Jeffs, Loveridge

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Re: Marriage date of Edward FUNNELL and Elizabeth NEWNHAM
« Reply #10 on: Monday 25 February 19 16:48 GMT (UK) »
The names they gave the children may help. These are all baptized at Fletching

18 March 1792 Elizabeth Newnham of Thomas and Jael?

20 March 1796 Elizabeth Newnham of Richard and Sarah

20 January 1799 Elizabeth Newnham of Nicholas and Sarah

Given that Edward and Elizabeth's first-born was called Thomas, this might lend weight to Elizabeth being the daughter of Thomas and Jael. I'll see if I can find any more information about them.

Martin
BKM/OXF: Harvey, Broughton, Goldswain, Braden, Ridgley, Wheeler, Lunnon, Dean, Austin, Franklin, Baldwin, Blackwell, Brooks, Ashby, East, Goodchild, Loosley, Stratford, Newell, Johnson, Bailey, Hobbs
BRK/OXF: Maskell, Waite, Ilsley, Harwood, Fuce, Lookman, Patey
SSX: Funnell, Hollengam, Gilbert, Ellis, Marchant, Harmer, Godfrey, Stoneham, Percy, Lavender
MDX/LDN/HRT: Seywell, Neville, Woods
KEN: Weller, Bishop, Friday, Maynard
ENG: Pewtress
Romnichal: Evans, Alford, Jeffs, Loveridge

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Re: Marriage date of Edward FUNNELL and Elizabeth NEWNHAM
« Reply #11 on: Monday 25 February 19 17:15 GMT (UK) »
In Brightling in 1841, transcribed as Fanner on ancestry
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M7SJ-5YX

Baptism of Charles in Brightling in 1827 (image)
Father Edward a Labourer
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-DR88-QQ?i=221&cat=214629


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Re: Marriage date of Edward FUNNELL and Elizabeth NEWNHAM
« Reply #12 on: Monday 25 February 19 20:20 GMT (UK) »
Will of Richard Newnham of Fletching
Dated 17 April 1819
Proved at Lewes, 19 April 1820
Doesn't really help though!
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-6SP3-FW8?i=805&cat=685691

Whole thing on FamilySearch starts image 805

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Re: Marriage date of Edward FUNNELL and Elizabeth NEWNHAM
« Reply #13 on: Monday 25 February 19 23:24 GMT (UK) »
Will of Richard Newnham of Fletching
Dated 17 April 1819
Proved at Lewes, 19 April 1820
Doesn't really help though!
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-6SP3-FW8?i=805&cat=685691

Whole thing on FamilySearch starts image 805

Interesting, though...if only he'd died a couple of years later!

It's just occurred to me that it might be worth me looking for the wills of Richard's other children, in case an Elizabeth Funnell is mentioned.
BKM/OXF: Harvey, Broughton, Goldswain, Braden, Ridgley, Wheeler, Lunnon, Dean, Austin, Franklin, Baldwin, Blackwell, Brooks, Ashby, East, Goodchild, Loosley, Stratford, Newell, Johnson, Bailey, Hobbs
BRK/OXF: Maskell, Waite, Ilsley, Harwood, Fuce, Lookman, Patey
SSX: Funnell, Hollengam, Gilbert, Ellis, Marchant, Harmer, Godfrey, Stoneham, Percy, Lavender
MDX/LDN/HRT: Seywell, Neville, Woods
KEN: Weller, Bishop, Friday, Maynard
ENG: Pewtress
Romnichal: Evans, Alford, Jeffs, Loveridge

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Re: Marriage date of Edward FUNNELL and Elizabeth NEWNHAM
« Reply #14 on: Tuesday 26 February 19 20:39 GMT (UK) »
Found this potentially interesting piece of info on another website...

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234 M    i. William FUNNELL-[4370] was born in 1820 in SSX, Fletching [Nr Danehill] 850 and was buried after 1881.
Noted events in his life were:

Census 1881: 3 Apr 1881, SSX, Mount Noddy, FLETCHING, [Nr Danehill]. 851 William aged 61/LODGER/UNM/Ag Lab Stockman/b c 1820 Fletching, SSX. Lodging with Thomas NEWNHAM

NEWNHAM Thomas Head Marr 46 AL b 1835 Fletching, SSX
NEWNHAM Susanna Wife Marr 42 b 1839 Fletching, SSX
NEWNHAM Robert Son Unm 19 Ag Lab b 1862 Fletching, SSX
NEWNHAM Margaret Dau Unm 17 Employed at home b 1864 Fletching, SSX
NEWNHAM Daniel Son Unm 16 Butcher Boy b 1865 Fletching, SSX
NEWNHAM Henry Son Unm 15 Ag Lab b 1866 Fletching, SSX
NEWNHAM Thomas Son Unm 12 Scholar b 1869 Fletching, SSX
NEWNHAM James Son Unm 11 Scholar b 1870 Fletching, SSX
NEWNHAM Frederick Son Unm 10 Scholar b 1871 Yalding, KENT
NEWNHAM Benjamin Son Unm 4 b 1877 Fletching, SSX
NEWNHAM William Son 2 b 1879 Fletching, SSX
NEWNHAM Emily Dau 5mths b 1880 Fletching, SSX
[10 Children]
FUNNELL William Lodger UNM 61 Stockman and Ag Lab b 1820 Fletching, SSX [4370]
He never married.

William appears to be the son of Edward Funnell and Elizabeth Newnham, and it looks like Thomas Newnham (b. 1835) is the grandson of Richard and Sarah Newnham by their son Robert, which would make Thomas William Funnell's nephew by marriage.
BKM/OXF: Harvey, Broughton, Goldswain, Braden, Ridgley, Wheeler, Lunnon, Dean, Austin, Franklin, Baldwin, Blackwell, Brooks, Ashby, East, Goodchild, Loosley, Stratford, Newell, Johnson, Bailey, Hobbs
BRK/OXF: Maskell, Waite, Ilsley, Harwood, Fuce, Lookman, Patey
SSX: Funnell, Hollengam, Gilbert, Ellis, Marchant, Harmer, Godfrey, Stoneham, Percy, Lavender
MDX/LDN/HRT: Seywell, Neville, Woods
KEN: Weller, Bishop, Friday, Maynard
ENG: Pewtress
Romnichal: Evans, Alford, Jeffs, Loveridge

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Re: Marriage date of Edward FUNNELL and Elizabeth NEWNHAM
« Reply #15 on: Tuesday 26 February 19 21:53 GMT (UK) »
Hi
That's a great spot.
Robert Newnham married Philadelphia Winn, 27 Jan 1821 at Fletching
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-DYLH-PZH?i=669&cat=215426

Thomas bap 7 Sep 1834, image from same film
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-DYLH-LD5?i=521&cat=215426

Thomas Newnham + Susan Smith, 19 June 1859, Horsted Keynes
(poor image!)
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-6X5S-VKQ?i=380

But wouldn't that make Thomas Newnham and William Funnell cousins? Presuming William was the son of Edward.
John

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Re: Marriage date of Edward FUNNELL and Elizabeth NEWNHAM
« Reply #16 on: Tuesday 26 February 19 22:05 GMT (UK) »
Throw in Brightling Overseers Accounts, 1826-1834
Edward is on very first page, getting help with the rent
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-6XC3-Y5S?i=4&cat=214629

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Re: Marriage date of Edward FUNNELL and Elizabeth NEWNHAM
« Reply #17 on: Tuesday 26 February 19 22:54 GMT (UK) »
But wouldn't that make Thomas Newnham and William Funnell cousins? Presuming William was the son of Edward.
John

You're right, they would be cousins (it's been a long day... ;D)

Throw in Brightling Overseers Accounts, 1826-1834
Edward is on very first page, getting help with the rent
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-6XC3-Y5S?i=4&cat=214629

I get the distinct impression that my Funnells weren't exactly flush.

Martin
BKM/OXF: Harvey, Broughton, Goldswain, Braden, Ridgley, Wheeler, Lunnon, Dean, Austin, Franklin, Baldwin, Blackwell, Brooks, Ashby, East, Goodchild, Loosley, Stratford, Newell, Johnson, Bailey, Hobbs
BRK/OXF: Maskell, Waite, Ilsley, Harwood, Fuce, Lookman, Patey
SSX: Funnell, Hollengam, Gilbert, Ellis, Marchant, Harmer, Godfrey, Stoneham, Percy, Lavender
MDX/LDN/HRT: Seywell, Neville, Woods
KEN: Weller, Bishop, Friday, Maynard
ENG: Pewtress
Romnichal: Evans, Alford, Jeffs, Loveridge