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PHILIPPINES DEATH of George Brown & Hannah Brown (née Woodward) 1850
« on: Thursday 28 February 19 09:55 GMT (UK) »
Hi,
    I am looking for assistance in finding death records for George Brown & Hannah Brown (née Woodward) who died in Manila, Philippines in 1850. George had been working in an iron foundry in Sydney prior to his death. At the time of his death George was 25 and Hannah was 23.

This one has really got me stumped and any assistance is appreciated.

Thanks,
Paul

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Re: PHILIPPINES DEATH of George Brown & Hannah Brown (née Woodward) 1850
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 28 February 19 10:55 GMT (UK) »
There is a record for the death of a George Brown in Manila

Nat Archives/GRO Overseas Deaths 1849-1854 -  Vol 1   Page 703

It might be him.


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Re: PHILIPPINES DEATH of George Brown & Hannah Brown (née Woodward) 1850
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 28 February 19 11:15 GMT (UK) »
Hi,

There is an RChatter who lives in the Phillipines. 

I wonder if he can help?  I will send him a PM

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Re: PHILIPPINES DEATH of George Brown & Hannah Brown (née Woodward) 1850
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 28 February 19 11:38 GMT (UK) »
Gadget,
            I am not a member of that site. Can you see the cocument and is there one for zhannah?

Thanks,
Paul


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Re: PHILIPPINES DEATH of George Brown & Hannah Brown (née Woodward) 1850
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 28 February 19 12:12 GMT (UK) »
Hi I am in the Philippines and I live in the Central Visayans (Bohol) and there are 7000 islands in the Philippines and about  1000 islands are populated.

There may be records in one region of part Manila City Hall. I don't believe these records (if any exist) will be on line and it would need a personal visit the the particular city hall where the deaths were reported.
Unless it was murder or a drowning I doubt you will bottom the cause of death (if they both died in the Philippines) as even today an autopsy is not held unless an individual family will pay the cost.

Maybe you have the following information already?

I did find this Australian newspaper article as follows in family announcements:
Bell's Life in Sydney and Sporting Reviewer (NSW) Sat 7th Sept. 1850
" DIED.
At Manila, in April last, in the 25th year of
his age, Mr. George Brown, for many years in
the employ of Mr. Richard Dawson, iron-
founder, of this city.
At the same place, in May, in the 23rd year
of her age, Mrs. Brown, wife of the above, and
eldest daughter of the late Mr. Edward Wood-
hart, of Phillip-street, in this city. "
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Re: PHILIPPINES DEATH of George Brown & Hannah Brown (née Woodward) 1850
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 28 February 19 12:32 GMT (UK) »
It says that they had been living in Sydney but died in Manila. There is no death ecord in Australia where we also have a town called Manila which is a farming area. I believe that Manila, Philippines had a strong iron foundry industry and George's skills would have made the move more likely

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Re: PHILIPPINES DEATH of George Brown & Hannah Brown (née Woodward) 1850
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 28 February 19 12:42 GMT (UK) »
Gadget,
            I am not a member of that site. Can you see the cocument and is there one for zhannah?

Thanks,
Paul

There is nothing but this entry in the death records. It's an official source so you'd have to go via the Nat Archives at Kew or the  Eng & Wales GRO.

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Re: PHILIPPINES DEATH of George Brown & Hannah Brown (née Woodward) 1850
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 28 February 19 14:56 GMT (UK) »
I assume death of a foreigner would be reported to the Embassy supporting that nationality and that is a standard practice nowadays (I don't know about reporting deaths of foreign nationals to consulates in 1850).

George & Hannah Brown were both Australian nationals at the time of their deaths - right?
If so you could try sending an email and ask if there is any record of these deaths held by them?
Public-Affairs-MNLA@dfat.gov.au

ADDRESS   Australian Embassy in Manila, Philippines Level 23-Tower 2, RCBC Plaza 6819 Ayala Avenue Makati City P.O.Box 1071 Manila Philippines
TELEPHONE   (+63) 2 757 8100
FAX   (+63) 2 757 8268
WEBSITE   philippines.embassy.gov.au

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Re: PHILIPPINES DEATH of George Brown & Hannah Brown (née Woodward) 1850
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 28 February 19 15:12 GMT (UK) »
I think they would also be British subjects at that time.
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