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Eliza, Elizabeth, Something else?
« on: Thursday 28 February 19 14:59 GMT (UK) »
I'm trying to confirm a name for my 2nd great aunt who I think is Elizabeth Taylor. She was born c1858/9 in Manchester according to censuses but in both 1861 and 1871 her name is written as what looks like a shorthand version though there are other Elizabeth's on the page written in full (see green arrows) so I'm wondering if her name is actually Eliza, or something else. On 1861 census Ann has been added as a second name.

Problem is I can find no birth record for her which should be easier now with the GRO search (surname Taylor, mother's maiden name also Taylor). She had two brothers born in 1860 and 1870 respectively. I have certificates for both of them. I cannot find her in 1881 and it's likely that she is married. I've looked for likely marriages with no luck. They were catholic so that might be a bit of hindrance for online records.

Anyway, I digress. Can anyone help with the name?  Thanks.
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Re: Eliza, Elizabeth, Something else?
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 28 February 19 15:49 GMT (UK) »
You don't give any census references which might help.

I'm not clear as to whether mum was a Taylor who married a Taylor?

There is this birth but it suggests an illegitimate birth.

TAYLOR, ELIZA  ANN     - 
GRO Reference: 1858  J Quarter in MANCHESTER  Volume 08D  Page 129
Ashford: Somerset, London
England: Devon, London, New Zealand
Holdway: Wiltshire
Hooper: Bristol, Somerset
Knowling: Devon, London
Southcott: Devon, China
Strong: Wiltshire
Watson: Cambridgeshire
White: Bristol
Windo - Gloucestershire, Somerset, Wiltshire

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Re: Eliza, Elizabeth, Something else?
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 28 February 19 16:13 GMT (UK) »
Thanks, yes sorry.
1861 Piece 2952 Folio 80 Page 14
1871 Piece 4045 Folio 107 Page 15

Eliz is daughter of John Taylor and Ann Taylor - Taylor is her maiden name as well as married name - tho can't find a marriage for them either!

The birth you highlighted I have already sent for, it's not the right one unfortunately.


You don't give any census references which might help.

I'm not clear as to whether mum was a Taylor who married a Taylor?

There is this birth but it suggests an illegitimate birth.

TAYLOR, ELIZA  ANN     - 
GRO Reference: 1858  J Quarter in MANCHESTER  Volume 08D  Page 129
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Re: Eliza, Elizabeth, Something else?
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 28 February 19 16:35 GMT (UK) »
In my opinion, what is written in the Taylor and Bird entries is:  Elith

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Re: Eliza, Elizabeth, Something else?
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 28 February 19 17:11 GMT (UK) »
On the Lancashire BMD site there is this birth for 1857:-

TAYLOR   Elizabeth   TAYLOR   London Road   Archives+, Manchester Central Library   LRD/48/59

A possibility?

Ashford: Somerset, London
England: Devon, London, New Zealand
Holdway: Wiltshire
Hooper: Bristol, Somerset
Knowling: Devon, London
Southcott: Devon, China
Strong: Wiltshire
Watson: Cambridgeshire
White: Bristol
Windo - Gloucestershire, Somerset, Wiltshire

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Re: Eliza, Elizabeth, Something else?
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 28 February 19 17:12 GMT (UK) »
Yes that's what it looks like but still no GRO record?
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Re: Eliza, Elizabeth, Something else?
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 28 February 19 17:13 GMT (UK) »
Could be. They spent a lot of years round Shudehill and Withy Grove though?  Only way I'll know is if I send for it!  Thanks.

On the Lancashire BMD site there is this birth for 1857:-

TAYLOR   Elizabeth   TAYLOR   London Road   Archives+, Manchester Central Library   LRD/48/59

A possibility?

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