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Re: Military Record
« Reply #9 on: Friday 01 March 19 12:36 GMT (UK) »
I can't find any info that correlates with either Ploughman OR Houghman - do you think it might say something else?

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Re: Military Record
« Reply #10 on: Friday 01 March 19 13:06 GMT (UK) »
Stephen can you give me George's year and place of birth?  What census records have you found him on so far?
Ashford: Somerset, London
England: Devon, London, New Zealand
Holdway: Wiltshire
Hooper: Bristol, Somerset
Knowling: Devon, London
Southcott: Devon, China
Strong: Wiltshire
Watson: Cambridgeshire
White: Bristol
Windo - Gloucestershire, Somerset, Wiltshire

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Re: Military Record
« Reply #11 on: Friday 01 March 19 13:15 GMT (UK) »
I posted this on the other thread earlier:

There is only one business with a name resembling "Ploughman" in St Thomas Street in the 1899 directory.

Why would a brush maker be working for a wholesale beer merchant?

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Re: Military Record
« Reply #12 on: Friday 01 March 19 14:06 GMT (UK) »
Stephen can you give me George's year and place of birth?  What census records have you found him on so far?

George Pitt was born on 29th January 1880 in 14 Lansdowner Place, Southwark, London to William and Angelina Sophia Pitt. He's living there on the 1881 and 1891 census. On 21st May 1899 he marries Amy Caroline Moody. Both of them lie on the wedding certificate, changing their ages from 19 (him) and 18 (her) to 21. She is already pregnant with their first son, George John Pitt (who dies as a child).

The familt have been "Brush Makers" for generations and George does a little of that himself before changing jobs. His nephew George is also a Brush Maker and so sorting through their various records was fun (!) but at least there was the age difference to tell them apart. There were another 2 George Pitt's born around the 1878/1880 era who i've had to double check on to make sure i've not got anything wrong.

On the 1901 census they are listed at 34 Lansdowne Plane, Kent Road, Southwark and it says he works as a Bank Porter at Pickford's Wharf. By 1903 (through to at least 1906)  they're living at 49 Elim Street, Bermondsey.

In the 1911 census they've moved to 7 Princes Place, Bermondsey and his job is a "porter".

By 1918 they've moved to 1 Nebraska St, Dover St.

Following Amy's death in 1924, George eventually re-marries in 1928 to Francis Charlotte West and
they live in 265 West St, Old Kent Road until his death in 1940.

And somewhere in all that he signed up for the 3rd Battalion East Surrey Regiment in 1899 and served in South Africa!

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Re: Military Record
« Reply #13 on: Friday 01 March 19 14:43 GMT (UK) »
Curious  ???

The marriage record has William as Richard:-

Marriages Dec 1865

Pitt    Richard        Lambeth    1d   737   
Scriven    Angelina Sophia        Lambeth    1d   737

George's birth record

PITT, GEORGE       SCRIVEN 
GRO Reference: 1880  M Quarter in SAINT SAVIOUR SURREY  Volume 01D  Page 46

I see from the 1881 that George has three siblings.
Ashford: Somerset, London
England: Devon, London, New Zealand
Holdway: Wiltshire
Hooper: Bristol, Somerset
Knowling: Devon, London
Southcott: Devon, China
Strong: Wiltshire
Watson: Cambridgeshire
White: Bristol
Windo - Gloucestershire, Somerset, Wiltshire

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Re: Military Record
« Reply #14 on: Friday 01 March 19 14:44 GMT (UK) »
Richard died, and she re-married (or at least moved in with and had children with) William, the brother.

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Re: Military Record
« Reply #15 on: Friday 01 March 19 14:48 GMT (UK) »
George and Frances are on the 1939 so you can see his exact date of birth.  I assume some of the others are Frances' children from her previous marriage.
Ashford: Somerset, London
England: Devon, London, New Zealand
Holdway: Wiltshire
Hooper: Bristol, Somerset
Knowling: Devon, London
Southcott: Devon, China
Strong: Wiltshire
Watson: Cambridgeshire
White: Bristol
Windo - Gloucestershire, Somerset, Wiltshire

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Re: Military Record
« Reply #16 on: Friday 01 March 19 14:53 GMT (UK) »
Yes, Francis was previously married and had children - just like George.

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Re: Military Record
« Reply #17 on: Friday 01 March 19 14:58 GMT (UK) »
Ah, okay so Richard has died here:

Deaths Jun 1875 
PITT    Richard    32    St. Saviour    1d   27

So Richard is the father of the first two children, William for all children after that and for whatever reason William didn't formalise his relationship with Angeline.

Ashford: Somerset, London
England: Devon, London, New Zealand
Holdway: Wiltshire
Hooper: Bristol, Somerset
Knowling: Devon, London
Southcott: Devon, China
Strong: Wiltshire
Watson: Cambridgeshire
White: Bristol
Windo - Gloucestershire, Somerset, Wiltshire