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Offline Mike in Cumbria

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Re: sixes or zeros?
« Reply #27 on: Thursday 28 February 19 20:37 GMT (UK) »
Don't remind me about my Joneses - got too many of those!

Any more info about 'your Martha' ?

Yes, she married George Leake on 23rd July 1878 in Burlton. her father was Edward Jones, labourer.
She appears on censuses from 1881 onwards up to 1911, with various children. her stated birthplace was Great Ness, which is in the district of Ruyton XI Towns.

My interest in her is that she appears, well documented, in the family tree of someone who shares my DNA, Jayne Leeke.  The Jones name, and the village of Great Ness, lead straight to where my own research took me. I THINK I have found my great great grandfather, Edward Jones there, as a 6 year old child in the 1851 census (with a different Martha as sister).

Although my 1845 Edward usually put Ruyton XI towns as his birth place, he did once say Hopton, which is a tiny hamlet within the parish of Great Ness. I'm sure Great Ness must be the link between myself and Jayne - it would be far too much of a coincidence for it to be otherwise.

I just can't yet find a definitive link between Jayne's Martha and either my known Jones or my potential Great Ness Joneses.
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Re: sixes or zeros?
« Reply #28 on: Thursday 28 February 19 20:39 GMT (UK) »
Did you change your reply Mike - you said that your Martha was b. 1855  so this wasn't her  ???

Sorry - this Martha, Mary's twin and Anne's daughter can not be the Martha I am looking for, ie the one in Jayne Leeke's tree, born 1855.

You've helped me rule her out though, which is always useful.
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« Reply #29 on: Thursday 28 February 19 20:43 GMT (UK) »
RE the Hopton P of B for your Edward ~

The abode on the Martha and Mary baptisms was Lower Hopton

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Re: sixes or zeros?
« Reply #30 on: Thursday 28 February 19 20:53 GMT (UK) »
RE the Hopton P of B for your Edward ~

The abode on the Martha and Mary baptisms was Lower Hopton

Yes, quite likely part of the extended family. Why they all had to be called Edward though, beats me.

The 6 year old Edward who I think may be mine is living with his Grandparents John and Martha Jones and his mother Jane Jones in Great Ness in 1851, His father, another Edward Jones, died of typhus in 1850
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« Reply #31 on: Thursday 28 February 19 20:55 GMT (UK) »
RE the Hopton P of B for your Edward ~

The abode on the Martha and Mary baptisms was Lower Hopton

I'll see if I can find an Edward and Anne Jones in the area on the censuses.
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« Reply #32 on: Thursday 28 February 19 21:01 GMT (UK) »
Nothing in 1861. Maybe they weren't together by then
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« Reply #33 on: Thursday 28 February 19 21:04 GMT (UK) »
Nothing in 1861. Maybe they weren't together by then

Could be missing pieces  :-\

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« Reply #34 on: Thursday 28 February 19 21:10 GMT (UK) »
Nothing in 1861. Maybe they weren't together by then

Could be missing pieces  :-\

Yes. They baptised their twins in May 1861, which is very soon after the census date. Maybe they were just in different houses on census day. I can't find a likely marriage between an Edward Jones and Anne Davies either, so I don't think these people are going to help me get to Jayne's Martha Jones or my Edward Jones. it's quite tantalising though - the link must be there somewhere.
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« Reply #35 on: Thursday 28 February 19 21:11 GMT (UK) »
They're half way down on the page after 

RG09/1885/48/19

I stepped through but no info on top of page
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