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Re: help needed please regarding a Frances Dorothy Kemp born in Glasgow
« Reply #27 on: Saturday 02 March 19 15:07 GMT (UK) »
Ok, thanks Annie. Will have to see if the family come up with anything else.  They seem to be certain she was born in Glasgow and moved to davenport in Devon we know not when.

Is anyone able to tell me who owns the family tree on Ancestry? or is that breaching Data Protection?  But Iíve got a feeling it might be a relative called sue.


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Re: help needed please regarding a Frances Dorothy Kemp born in Glasgow
« Reply #28 on: Saturday 02 March 19 15:43 GMT (UK) »


Tree centres upon the 3rd child of the couple, initials SAJ, born 1955?
   
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Re: help needed please regarding a Frances Dorothy Kemp born in Glasgow
« Reply #29 on: Saturday 02 March 19 15:52 GMT (UK) »
You are correct Olives
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Re: help needed please regarding a Frances Dorothy Kemp born in Glasgow
« Reply #30 on: Saturday 02 March 19 16:12 GMT (UK) »
Now the following 1901 census is just a thought and might need exploring
7Forge Street, Glasgow
Charles Kemp   31
Mary Kemp   29
Henrietta Kemp   8
Peter Kemp   6
Mary Kemp   4
Charles Kemp   8 Months
Elizabeth Shannon   52 visitor

Note he has 2 possible daughters who could have given birth in 1917 or even a girlfriend of the son, might be worth checking if the son died in WW1... it would be be a logical answer.

I donít have any Scotlandspeople credits to check the family in 1911
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Re: help needed please regarding a Frances Dorothy Kemp born in Glasgow
« Reply #31 on: Saturday 02 March 19 16:29 GMT (UK) »
The Charles Kemp mentioned in the last post, emigrated to Canada in 1920, one of his daughters, Henrietta, was already there.

There is also a later boarder crossing in 1931. Between USA and Canada.  He lists a mrs Henrietta Ewing on the boarder crossing card
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Re: help needed please regarding a Frances Dorothy Kemp born in Glasgow
« Reply #32 on: Saturday 02 March 19 18:52 GMT (UK) »
I think it would be good if the person you are helping ordered the marriage cert for Frances Dorothy's marriage in 1940. In these types of searches, you need every bit of help you can get! Confirming what she reported for her father's details on the registration may help.

You mention that that Charles Kemp is possibly seen to be the person that took care of Frances Dorothy in her early years? 

From jc26red's details on the Kemp family in the Glasgow area, this I think is them from the 1911 index, all under the ref of 644/5 16/ 17 - Garngadhill, Lanark.
   
Charles 40
Mary 38
Peter 16
Mary 14
Eliza 8
Charlotte 7
Catherine 4
Peter 69
John 32

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Added: Baby Charles who showed in 1901 died that same year.
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Re: help needed please regarding a Frances Dorothy Kemp born in Glasgow
« Reply #33 on: Saturday 02 March 19 18:57 GMT (UK) »
The Peter Snr and John who show on the index likely Charles' father and brother. From 1891:

Peter Kemp 49 carter b Edinburgh
Hannah Kemp 47  b. Glasgow
Charles Kemp 22 carter b. Glasgow
Walter Kemp 20 carter b. Glasgow
John Kemp 11  b. Glasgow

Address: 274 Garngadhill, Dennistoun Glasgow

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Re: help needed please regarding a Frances Dorothy Kemp born in Glasgow
« Reply #34 on: Saturday 02 March 19 19:39 GMT (UK) »
MonicaL: thanks very much. The daughter I am helping thinks her sister in Australia might have the marriage certificate of their mother.  If not, Iíll urge them to get one!

JC2Red and Ray. Thanks for all the info. So much to digest. If only theyíd had adoption papers/records in those days.....Frances Dorothy Kempís mother could have been anyone....

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Re: help needed please regarding a Frances Dorothy Kemp born in Glasgow
« Reply #35 on: Saturday 02 March 19 20:21 GMT (UK) »
JC2Red and Ray. Thanks for all the info. So much to digest. If only theyíd had adoption papers/records in those days.....Frances Dorothy Kempís mother could have been anyone....

Which is why I would suggest a dna test, a family finder kind not ydna.  The Charles Kemp mentioned in Glasgow is in another tree on Ancestry, again another direct descendant is the tree owner.... it is possible to request (pay) for them to also take a test to see if there is a family connection.

But first, make sure you see the marriage cert and the details concerning Francesís father.
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