help needed please regarding a Frances Dorothy Kemp born in Glasgow

[IMBER]

Thought this may be of interest...

1901 - 29 Chichester Rd, Portsmouth, Southampton

Charles R W Kemp 28 (c1873) Steam Engine Motor Fitter, b Chatham, Kent ***
Jane S Kemp 27 Wife
Charles G Kemp 4 Son
John E Kemp 1 Son
Peter D Murray 24 M Visitor, Insurance Agent, b Peterhead, Scotland
Winifred Murray 24 M Visitor, b Chatham, Kent
Jennie Murray 1 Visitor, b ? (couldn't read it), Portsmouth

ED 20 Piece 981 Folio 24 Pg 3 Sch16

1911 - (unsure of what details I'm allowed to post)

Charles 38 M Engine Fitter
Susan 37 M (using her middle name)
Charles 14
John 11
Alfred 8
Jean Murray (now Niece)
William Poarch 31 M Visitor
Nellie 31 Poarch 31 M Visitor

Couldn't help but notice the coincidence, the birth for Henrietta Murray Kemp 1892 (posted earlier) i.e. although not the same family there may be a connection, stranger things have happened...

The Charles Kemp mentioned in the last post, emigrated to Canada in 1920, one of his daughters, Henrietta, was already there.

Marriage
Charles Richard William Kemp 21 (c1873)
30 Jun 1894 St Margaret, Plumstead, Greenwich, England
Father Richard William Kemp
Spouse Jane Susannah Barker
Parish Register

*** UK, Shipping and Seamen WWI and WWII Rolls of Honour, 1914-1945 for Charles Richard William Kemp
BT 339:6 Mercantile Marine Officers; Nominal lists; copies of ´London Gazette´ (1916 - 1920)

30 Mar 1920 - Charles Richard William Kemp, Inspector of Engine Fitters, H M Dockyard, Portsmouth

1939
Charpeman Engine Fitter H M Dockyard Poste (RETD) (Chargeman)

Death
Charles R W Kemp 88 (c1873)
Reg Mar 1961 RD Portsmouth, County Hampshire Vol 6b Pg 567

Probate
Charles Richard William Kemp (MBE)
21 Drayton Road, North End, Portsmouth died 16 Mar 1961 Probate London 21 Apr
to John Edwin Kemp retired Chargeman of Fitters. Effects £1486 12s. 9d.

Annie


As indicated above Charles George Kemp (b1896) married Minnie Davey in 1932. I’m not sure if this has been noted before but for what it’s worth a tree on Ancestry appears to indicate that he had also married a Dorothy, no surname, dates, parents etc.

Imber

[olives]

Thanks Imber/Annie. The mystery continues. It’s so hard without very little paperwork to go on.

I’m now looking at Frances’s husband, who was in the RAF at the time of their marriage. I’ve been looking on Ancestry for service records, but guess I’m right in assuming that, because of the 100 year rule, that’s why I’m unable to find details of his service record.

[olives]

Ray: I’ve just taken on a free trial on Ancestry and was trying to find the tree you mentioned instigated by ‘SAJ’. I’ve tried searching by those initials under the trees, but can’t seem to find it. I’ve also tried SAJ’s deceased parents’ names, but to no avail. Can you point me in the right direction, please?

[IMBER]

Thanks Imber/Annie. The mystery continues. It’s so hard without very little paperwork to go on.

I’m now looking at Frances’s husband, who was in the RAF at the time of their marriage. I’ve been looking on Ancestry for service records, but guess I’m right in assuming that, because of the 100 year rule, that’s why I’m unable to find details of his service record.

There is no 100 year rule for WW2 service records but these are still held by the MOD. Full release of records to other than next of kin is only allowed 25 years after the death of the subject. The full details are given here:

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/request-records-of-deceased-service-personnel

Imber

[olives]

Ah, thanks Imber.

[olives]

I’ve been checking up another FT re a Sarah Kemp (b1832) marrying a George Norworthy (to see if there’s any connection with our Kemps).  Apparently someone has said that it is thought they were Quakers from Tavistock and, if so, their BMD records are kept solely by the Quakers. I’d not heard of that before.....

[de88ie63]

Good evening

I am very very new to this and I was looking through messages with the name of Holdroff, I am a descendent of this family, I am from Falmouth in Cornwall and I have been reading through what you have written about a family member called Fanny.  Before I go any further with information which I believe may help I just want to make sure I am doing this right as I said I am very new.

Debbie

[de88ie63]

ok I have had a double check and everybody you have mentioned in your messages, Fanny Holdroff, husband, children, where born, also places Fanny worked, mothers maiden name the name Tong, Sedgmond etc is in my family for sure.  I am so excited that I hope will be able to help.  I hope that you don't mind me writing this but I am ecstatic.   I do hope that you reply as it would be amazing.

[de88ie63]

I hope this is helpful, I have received a pm but cannot open it