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Offline Freya Ellingsen

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Re: John, George Howard
« Reply #27 on: Monday 04 March 19 09:14 GMT (UK) »
NFR =  “No further record”??

Ie perhaps he is recorded as a juror at an inquest on 5 March 1856, at Welcome Inn (E/HGly) and then no further record

Still not sure what 158 is, and still cannot find E/HGly.  East? Something?
Seeing he was a lawyer would that number ref to a court case he was in?
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Re: John, George Howard
« Reply #28 on: Monday 04 March 19 09:15 GMT (UK) »
TROVE has reports of  inquests held in early March 1856, one at Back Creek on 7 March and one at the Welcome inn, Eagle Hawk (sic) on the 5th. No mention of the names of the jurors. I suspect this is the explanation for this part of the record. E/H = Eagle Hawk??

In the  Bendigo Advertiser, Sat 8 Mar 1856

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/88049079

Wondering how this reasonably obscure piece of information has come to be recorded.

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Re: John, George Howard
« Reply #29 on: Monday 04 March 19 09:22 GMT (UK) »
I was just reading that too Jen 😀

So Eagle Hawk Gully perhaps. 
currently concentrating on NUTCHER & MARSHALL families, Hampshire.
and family of Thomas ANDERSON a Tailor of Perth, Scotland

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Re: John, George Howard
« Reply #30 on: Monday 04 March 19 10:33 GMT (UK) »
158 must be the court case then ???
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Re: John, George Howard
« Reply #31 on: Monday 04 March 19 12:22 GMT (UK) »


The marriage certificate, 1884.....is it a transcription....or......image of a handwritten document?

I think that John George HOWARD is a sawyer, not a lawyer.

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Re: John, George Howard
« Reply #32 on: Monday 04 March 19 12:55 GMT (UK) »
Wivenhoe - I think you may well be right.

On looking at the inquest report, the doctor's autopsy uses the word 'spleen' a couple of times.  The account of John George's testimony gives his occupation as '-awyer' and the first letter is formed in much the same way as the first letter of 'spleen' which would mean that his occupation was, indeed, 'sawyer' not 'lawyer'.  There are a couple of capital 'L's in the record (eg surname of the witness Henrietta Llewellyn')which also look similar so very difficult to work out which is correct.  Henrietta Llewellyn states that she is the wife of a 'sawyer' or 'lawyer' and there is a slight difference in the capital L of her surname compared to the first letter of her husband's occupation.

Link given earlier by matthewj64
http://access.prov.vic.gov.au/public/component/daPublicBaseContainer?component=daViewItem&entityId=0129625388

However, it would be interesting to see how his occupation looks as written on the son's marriage certificate.

It would also seem to me to be more likely that he would be a sawyer than a professional man, but that is purely an opinion. 

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Re: John, George Howard
« Reply #33 on: Monday 04 March 19 13:20 GMT (UK) »
Ok the Lawyer is a Sawyer what a difference a S makes.
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Re: John, George Howard
« Reply #34 on: Saturday 16 March 19 11:29 GMT (UK) »
Can anyone see the death of John, George Howard?
I am unable to find, ? born 1818-1820 according to his son he came from Clarkenwell, London, England.. ??? He resided in the Bendigo area
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