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Henry Wagstaff
« on: Saturday 02 March 19 14:22 GMT (UK) »
I need some help trying to trace the parents of Edwin(Edward) Wagstaff born 1859 Hackney, London
Wife Annie Matthews b1867  Have census records for 1871 onwards but can't find 1861 where it would, hopefully, show parents and siblings  The parish record of his marriage to Annie has Henry Wagstaff as his father, occupation plumber.  Any help would be appreciated  Thanks

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Re: Henry Wagstaff
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 02 March 19 14:25 GMT (UK) »
Can you locate his birth registration or is it elusive? 
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Re: Henry Wagstaff
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 02 March 19 14:29 GMT (UK) »
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Have census records for 1871

Is it the one where he is a nephew age 12 with the Marss/Morss family?
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Re: Henry Wagstaff
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 02 March 19 14:31 GMT (UK) »
Hello Millipede  yes, it is   I can't find a birth record for Edwin?Edward either


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Re: Henry Wagstaff
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 02 March 19 14:37 GMT (UK) »
Closest I can see is this one

Edward Wagstaff Dec 1860 St Geo Han Sq

but as we have him as a nephew his aunt or uncle must be related to a parent of his.  Could be tricky to trace back but the link is there somewhere.
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Re: Henry Wagstaff
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 02 March 19 14:40 GMT (UK) »
MORSS, PHOEBE  MARIA     mmn THOMAS 
1847  Dec Quarter in BETHNAL GREEN  Volume 02  Page 41


 
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Re: Henry Wagstaff
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 02 March 19 14:40 GMT (UK) »
    This one??

WAGSTAFF, EDWIN        MMN MORSE     
GRO Reference: 1857  D Quarter in BETHNAL GREEN  Volume 01C  Page 293

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Re: Henry Wagstaff
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 02 March 19 14:44 GMT (UK) »
Millipede, Rosie and Candrjm  Thanks for the information.  Again, rootschat members have given me the details I need :)

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Re: Henry Wagstaff
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 02 March 19 15:44 GMT (UK) »
There is this possible  marriage (Henrietta possible sister of Daniel Morss):

Marriages Dec 1853   
Morss    Henrietta        Bethnal G    1c   539   
Yates    Alexander         Bethnal Gn.    1c   539    

and this 1861 census:

Name:   Alexander Yates
County:   London, Middlesex
Event Type:   Census
Event Date:   1861
Event Place:   Hackney, London, Middlesex, England
Ecclesiastical Parish:   Dalston
Registration District:   Hackney
Residence Note:   Shrubland Road
Gender:   Male
Age:   28
Marital Status:   Married
Occupation:   Commercial Traveller
Relationship to Head of Household:   Lodger
Birth Year (Estimated):   1833
Birthplace:   Bethnal Green, Middlesex
Page Number:   1
Registration Number:   RG09
Piece/Folio:   161 / 2

Wife : Henrietta aged 32 born Bethnal Green
Visitor: Frederick Wagstaff aged 15 born Bethnal Green<<<<<<<<<<<<
Niece: Phoebe Morris aged 13 born Bethnal Green>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>Possibly Phoebe Morss aged 24 (Mother Phoebe Thomas, father Daniel Morss) in 1871 census
<<<<<<<<<<<Possible birth reg:

WAGSTAFF, FREDERICK     MMN    MORSS     
GRO Reference: 1845  S Quarter in BETHNAL GREEN  Volume 02  Page 43

Possible brother to Edwin Wagstaff???

other Wagstaff children with MMN Morss born London area:

WAGSTAFF, HENRY  GRAHAM      MORSS     
GRO Reference: 1841  S Quarter in Bethnal Green  Volume 02  Page 31

WAGSTAFF, EMMA  CAROLINE      MORSS     
GRO Reference: 1843  J Quarter in THE SHOREDITCH DISTRICT  Volume 02  Page 340

WAGSTAFF, JAMES        MORSS     
GRO Reference: 1847  D Quarter in BETHNAL GREEN  Volume 02  Page 41

WAGSTAFF, MARY  ANN ALICE     MORSS     
GRO Reference: 1851  S Quarter in BETHNAL GREEN  Volume 02  Page 18
Death: WAGSTAFF, MARY  ANN ALICE     Aged 1 
GRO Reference: 1853  M Quarter in BETHNAL GREEN  Volume 01C  Page 226

WAGSTAFF, LUCY  MARIA      MORSS     
GRO Reference: 1855  D Quarter in BETHNAL GREEN  Volume 01C  Page 262


1851 census??

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:SGXB-YFZ


Possible marriage:

Name    Henry Graham William Wagstaff
Spouse's Name    Mary Ann Morss
Event Date    14 Dec 1834
Event Place    Saint Leonards,Shoreditch, London,England



Baptisms: (Mary Ann and Henrietta possibly sisters of Daniel Morss)

Name    Mary Ann Morss
Christening Date    22 May 1814
Christening Place    SAINT LEONARDS,SHOREDITCH,LONDON,ENGLAND
Birth Date    01 May 1814
Father's Name    Daniel Morss
Mother's Name    Mary

Name    Daniel Morss
Christening Date    05 Sep 1819
Christening Place    SAINT MATTHEW,BETHNAL GREEN,LONDON,ENGLAND
Birth Date    15 May 1819
Father's Name    Daniel Morss
Mother's Name    Mary


Name    Henrietta Morss
Christening Date    18 Oct 1829
Christening Place    SAINT LEONARDS,SHOREDITCH,LONDON,ENGLAND
Birth Date    06 Oct 1829
Father's Name    Daniel Morss
Mother's Name    Mary


Added:
It looks like Henry Graham William Wagstaff remarried in 1867 and that Mary Ann Wagstaff died in 1865
Henry G W Wagstaff died in 1886 and he can be found in the 1871 and 1881 census (in Hackney)  living with his 2nd wife Elizabeth