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Offline Edward Scott

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Re: Help with an Essex or Suffolk marriage
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 05 March 19 18:25 GMT (UK) »
Elizabeth died in 1832 with a declared age of 84 giving a birth c1746, I have not found a burial for JB.

Elizabeth buried 30 May 1830 ;D
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:9Q97-YSLF-791?i=1606&cat=514284

Is there any known later Bolton connection to Chelsworth?

Thanks, fat fingers again  :)

James Cuthbert married Elizabeth Bolton in Manningtree, however he was born in Chelsworth. I don't have any Bolton connections to Chelsworth yet.

I have just sent you a PM.

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Re: Help with an Essex or Suffolk marriage
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 06 March 19 11:43 GMT (UK) »
This is part of a PM sent to me last night by Jon

"I was just fishing around in the Essex records on FamilySearch (I don't have SEAX) and came across the Manningtree overseers accounts. I haven't looked at much, there are entries for - I think it says - Wd Bolton, and I've got back to 1826 and Chelsworth is written.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:9Q97-YS2K-LVH?i=2220&cat=599681"

The Chelsworth note ceases in late 1827 but she continues to have relief until the early part of 1830 which ties in with her burial in May. She must have been back in Manningtree by then.

I cannot see her any earlier than the the 1826 link above.

I think this means that she was receiving Manningtree Parish poor relief but living in Chelwsorth, however I assume that she must have been 'of Manningtree' originally.

Thoughts please.

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Re: Help with an Essex or Suffolk marriage
« Reply #11 on: Sunday 10 March 19 12:36 GMT (UK) »
Having cleared a brick wall with the parents of Elizabeth Bolton, I though a quick summary may help and it also shows those who assisted where I am now.

Elizabeth Bolton m James Curhbert Apr 1796 in Manningtree, 11 (1797-1817)children born in Manningtree (3), Great Bromley (1), back to Manningtree (3), Little Bromley (4).

James is not an issue, I have him back another 5 generations.

Elizabeth bapt Manningtree Apr 1775 d of John Bolton & Elizabeth Jessup m Feb 1772 in Kersey, Suffolk. There is not a matching marriage in Essex and this is the only one found that does.

3 other children Robert bapt 1779 buried 1780, William bapt 1779 & Mary bapt 1786. The big gap makes me wonder of they were somewhere else for a few years.

Elizabeth (the mother) buried Manningtree May 1830 and the poor records show her as being a widow from 1826. 1826 & 1827 she is'of Manningtree'

The parents of Elizabeth Jessup bapt 1745 in Hadleigh, Suffolk were Thomas Jessup & Ellen

I cannot find:-

a baptism for John
a burial for John Bolton
marriages or deaths for William and Mary
marriage for TJ & Ellen
any other Jessup children

Any help or thoughts would be really appreciated

thanks

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Re: Help with an Essex or Suffolk marriage
« Reply #12 on: Sunday 10 March 19 20:16 GMT (UK) »
It is frustrating when you have likely candidates but cannot link them. I have checked and cannot seem to find a Elizabeth Jessup baptism in Manningtree. Although the poor law records say she was "of Manningtree" may mean she lived there a long while, and not necessarily born there. I think she must have been born in Suffolk, especially if she lived in Chelsworth for some time in her final years.
Researching:

LONDON, Coombs, Roberts, Auber, Helsdon, Fradine, Morin, Goodacre
DORSET Coombs, Munday
NORFOLK Helsdon, Riches, Harbord, Budery
KENT Roberts, Goodacre
SUSSEX Walder, Boniface, Dinnage, Standen, Lee, Botten, Wickham, Jupp
SUFFOLK Titshall, Frost, Fairweather, Mayhew, Archer, Eade, Scarfe
DURHAM Stewart, Musgrave, Wilson, Forster
SCOTLAND Stewart in Selkirk
USA Musgrave, Saix
ESSEX Cornwell, Stock, Quilter, Lawrence, Whale, Clift
OXON Edgington, Smith, Inkpen, Snell, Batten, Brain

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Re: Help with an Essex or Suffolk marriage
« Reply #13 on: Monday 11 March 19 12:39 GMT (UK) »
Hi
In the Manningtree settlement records
Have you got
1805
James Cuthbert (Chelsworth)
Handy index and summary
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:9Q97-YS22-KNL?i=229&cat=599681

But the thing itself (if this is the right one!) seems to be impossible to read
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:9Q97-YS22-KJ7?i=255&cat=599681


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Re: Help with an Essex or Suffolk marriage
« Reply #14 on: Monday 11 March 19 13:00 GMT (UK) »
It is frustrating when you have likely candidates but cannot link them. I have checked and cannot seem to find a Elizabeth Jessup baptism in Manningtree. Although the poor law records say she was "of Manningtree" may mean she lived there a long while, and not necessarily born there. I think she must have been born in Suffolk, especially if she lived in Chelsworth for some time in her final years.

Thanks

She was Elizabeth Bolton (nee Jessup) when in Manningtree, bapt in Hadleigh (Suffolk), married in Kersey

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Re: Help with an Essex or Suffolk marriage
« Reply #15 on: Monday 11 March 19 13:29 GMT (UK) »
Jon, thanks. I have had a go at enhancing them but the quality is quite poor to start with.

The summary mentions 4 children Elizabeth, Mary, Sarah & James who were all born in Manningtree. There is another brother Joseph who, based on census, could have been born anywhere between 1802-1808 in Great Bromley. I think this document shows that he was born after this examination so now 1805-1808

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Re: Help with an Essex or Suffolk marriage
« Reply #16 on: Monday 11 March 19 13:52 GMT (UK) »
There's Joseph + Hannah, bap 11 September 1808, Manningtree, on FreeReg.

Manningtree BT for 1808-09, the last before 1813, and I'm afraid that it is another faded image, but we can see them!
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:9Q97-YSLF-QPF?i=1393&cat=514284

FreeReg then has Thomas baptized in 1810.
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Re: Help with an Essex or Suffolk marriage
« Reply #17 on: Monday 11 March 19 13:59 GMT (UK) »
Thanks, that's right, the next 4 were all bapt in Little Bromley 1811-1817
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