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Re: Impossible Ancestors
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 05 March 19 16:38 GMT (UK) »
There appears to be the following children:-

1867 Caroline/Margaret, 1869 David died, 1870 Elizabeth died, 1879 Elizabeth, 1881 David, 1884 Patrick, 1885 Grace, 1888 William and 1891 Francis.

Nine altogether, all Dowling/Ames
Ashford: Somerset, London
England: Devon, London, New Zealand
Holdway: Wiltshire
Hooper: Bristol, Somerset
Knowling: Devon, London
Southcott: Devon, China
Strong: Wiltshire
Watson: Cambridgeshire
White: Bristol
Windo - Gloucestershire, Somerset, Wiltshire

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Re: Impossible Ancestors
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 05 March 19 16:48 GMT (UK) »
Also Ann Dowling born 1894 in Belvedere, Kent... She is the only daughter at home by 1911. Also on the 1901.
So that would make the 7 from his marriage if he counted from 1878.

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Re: Impossible Ancestors
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 05 March 19 16:54 GMT (UK) »
There is no birth recorded for Ann.  Certainly not as Dowling/Ames.
Ashford: Somerset, London
England: Devon, London, New Zealand
Holdway: Wiltshire
Hooper: Bristol, Somerset
Knowling: Devon, London
Southcott: Devon, China
Strong: Wiltshire
Watson: Cambridgeshire
White: Bristol
Windo - Gloucestershire, Somerset, Wiltshire

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Re: Impossible Ancestors
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 05 March 19 16:56 GMT (UK) »
Have you found out anything with the first Elizabeth (1870) I have her up until 1881 with the family and then lose her?
Not sure why they would name another daughter Elizabeth and then not keep the 2nd one.
I noticed you put died at the side...

Very strange with Ann then listed as daughter... Maybe a granddaughter in reality?

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Re: Impossible Ancestors
« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 05 March 19 17:00 GMT (UK) »
baptism in St Paul Shadwell 29 Sept 1878 for Catherine Hanson, born 21 Feb, 1874 daughter of George, milker, and Ann of 36? London Street, Commercial Road
Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb

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Re: Impossible Ancestors
« Reply #14 on: Tuesday 05 March 19 17:03 GMT (UK) »
possibly misheard maiden name

Ann Dowling june qtr 1894 Dartford vol 2a pg 455 mmn Hains
Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb

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Re: Impossible Ancestors
« Reply #15 on: Tuesday 05 March 19 17:04 GMT (UK) »
Just checked GRO, it says Hains for mmn.
Not sure then if a mistranscription of the surname... Or a child of just David's?
If Ann could play away... Who's to say David didn't?

Yes Catherine was my great grandmother, born and baptised as Hanson, lived on census records as a Dowling.
She married a George Pearmain in 1895 in Tower Hamlets using the name Kathleen Hanson.

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Re: Impossible Ancestors
« Reply #16 on: Tuesday 05 March 19 17:12 GMT (UK) »
I wasn't absolutely sure that the death I found was for the 1870 Elizabeth. I see that the 1879 Elizabeth is not on the 1881 with the family.
Ashford: Somerset, London
England: Devon, London, New Zealand
Holdway: Wiltshire
Hooper: Bristol, Somerset
Knowling: Devon, London
Southcott: Devon, China
Strong: Wiltshire
Watson: Cambridgeshire
White: Bristol
Windo - Gloucestershire, Somerset, Wiltshire

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Re: Impossible Ancestors
« Reply #17 on: Tuesday 05 March 19 17:15 GMT (UK) »
no, but the one born 1870 is on the 1871 & 1881 census so why would another daughter be called Elizabeth?


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Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb