TURNBULL FAMILY / Gateshead, Durham (pre 1855) - help pls !

[tarapre]

Hi!

Looking for some assistance in tracing my family from Aus back to the UK and have gotten stuck!

So far I have -->

Frederick John TURNBULL (my great grandfather)

son of

Frederick Isaac TURNBULL b.1880 / Collingwood, Australia

son of

Robert Thomas TURNBULL b.1855 d.1919 / Gateshead, Durham, England
& Caroline Martha TUCKER b.1857 d.1898 / Prahan, Australia
(Married 1877 in Australia)

son of

Robert John TURNBULL


- Would love to confirm the parents of Robert Thomas TURNBULL. The Turnbull Clan Association lists his father as Robert John TURNBULL "b. say 1825" but there is no source for this info. The closest match I have found is a Robert John Turnbull b.1823 (March) in Lowick, Nothumberland to Peter TURNBULL and Ann GRAHAM or a John TURNBULL b.1823 (June) St Hildas, South Shields, Durham to also to a Peter and Ann Turnbull !

- Would also like to find out when Robert Thomas TURNBULL emmigrated. The closest match I have found for this is a Robt Thomas TURNBULL arriving in Melbourne from Liverpool in 1859. The Victorian Inward Passenger List 1839-1923 lists the following other TURNBULLs arriving that same year from Liverpool - Ann, Geo E, George, Jno, Margt, Robt, Robt Thos and Wm. I tried to find out more info about these names but struggled.

Any help on where / how I should go about looking to extend my search would be greatly appreciated !

Thanks

[rosie99]

Robert Thomas TURNBULL b.1855 d.1919 / Gateshead, Durham, England
& Caroline Martha TUCKER b.1857 d.1898 / Prahan, Australia
(Married 1877 in Australia)

Welcome to rootschat

The only death I can see on freebmd that would match the 1919 one is this one but it has no middle name for Robert
Death Dec qtr 1919   
TURNBULL    Robert    age 65   
Houghton   reg district 10a   542

Does his marriage certificate give any information on his parents

[BumbleB]

Welcome to RootsChat 

There is a birth registration in Gateshead Registration District - June quarter 1855 - Robert Thomas Turnbull.  From GRO we have mother's maiden name of Oliver.  A copy of his birth certificate might be a good purchase - PDF version available from GRO.

[Pheno]

Rosie, I looked and then re read and presumed that as this couple married in Australia then that is where they both died and assumed the ref to Gateshead related to the birth rather than the death.

Maybe I have misread.

Pheno

[rosie99]

It is not clear what the Gateshead refers to    I thought he may have returned to Gateshead after his wife had died 

[BumbleB]

The marriage appears on the list of Victoria marriages - 1877 - plus the possibility of a second marriage, also Victoria - 1907 - Rachel Maria Henry.

The death entry in Melbourne, Victoria - 1919 - gives an age of 69, therefore birth around 1850.  Father stated to be Robert John Turnbull.

[Dundee]

(Married 1877 in Australia)

The marriage certificate should name both parents and give a place of birth and age.

1080 / 1877
TUCKER, Caroline Martha
TURNBULL, Robert Thomas

Debra 

[Dundee]

Would also like to find out when Robert Thomas TURNBULL emmigrated. The closest match I have found for this is a Robt Thomas TURNBULL arriving in Melbourne from Liverpool in 1859.

This Robert was aged 3 travelling on the Shalimar with his parents John, 24, a labourer, and Ann, 23.

Debra 

[rosie99]

Thank you BumbleB & Debra for the extra information.  Now I know where I should be looking 

Hopefully OP will get the marriage certificate then we may be able to locate the family in the UK