TURNBULL FAMILY / Gateshead, Durham (pre 1855) - help pls !

[ciderdrinker]

Hi
Robert Thomas Turnbulls birth is registered in Gateshead  June 1855 mother' maiden name Oliver Vol 10A page 491
You could order the birth certificate which would give his parents but let's try without.
Other children Turnbull/oliver- Margaret Newcastle u Tyne June qtr 1852.

Baptism Robert Turnbull at Gateshead 6 Oct 1856 age 1 to John Turnbull and Isabella Ann

John Turnbull married an Isabella Ann Oliver at Newcastle Mar qtr 1855   vol 10B   98.
If you buy the marriage cert it would give you their fathers.
It was Newcastle St John the Baptist if someone can look locally

Isabella Oliver it seems appears on the 1851 census for Newcastle  New Road(altough her age is lower)
Isabella Oliver 42 butcher's widow born Kendal
Ann (Isabell Ann) 21 born Newcastle
Isaac 6

She was baptised Newcastle 23 Aug 1835 d of Thomas and Isabella Oliver.
Other children Mary Ann 19.11.1827,Thomas 20.6.1830,Thomas 15.8.1831 Isaac 14 Sep 1845,Jane 16 Aug 1846.


John,Isabella and their children don't seem to appear on the 1861 census so that arrival in Australia in 1859  seems right.
It gives father John 24 labourer and his wife Ann 23,Robt Thos 3
That would fit with what we have.
So John Turnbull would be born c 1835

I'd love to give the info for John but there are several choices.
One family tree has a baptism at Tynemouth 20 Sep 1835 to William and Isabella
The 1851 census has a Robert Turnbull  son of either William and Elizabeth living at Gateshead or John s of William and Margaret also at Gateshead a stone mason or John F Turnbull s of William and Ann at Newcastle a labourer.

If you can find his death in Australia hopefully it should give his parents
Alternatively you may have to buy that marriage in 1855 ,now c £7 for an electronic copy.
If i copied anyone's else's sorry but i was typing

Ciderdrinker

[CarolA3]

If you can find his death in Australia hopefully it should give his parents
Alternatively you may have to buy that marriage in 1855 ,now c £7 for an electronic copy.

Unfortunately only birth and death records are available under that system.  For marriages, you still have to order a paper copy (£11) and they're sent by snail mail (airmail if you're outside UK).

Carol

[tarapre]

WOW !
Thank you so much for the FAST replies !

The "Gateshead, Durham" reference was listed as the birthplace of a Robert Thomas TURNBULL b.1855 (April May June). - A page on the Turnbull Clan site had b.1950 Newcastle Upon Tyne, Northumberland so I wrote that down as a secondary possibility?

Re: Robert Thomas TURNBULL second marriage to Rachel Maria Henry in 1907. I also have that along with 4 children. (Robert Paul b.1902 d.1927, Dulcie Violet b.1907, Charles Percy John b.1911, William Harold 1914-1914). 
He had 11 children from his first marriage to Caroline Tucker in 1877 (one of which was Frederick Isaac Turnbull).
The Births Deaths and Marriages Victoria list a Robt Thos TURNBULL d.1919 in Melbourne Australia. Parent 1 is UNKNOWN and Parent 2 is Robt Jno TURNBULL.

[Dundee]

Victorian registry indexes are available online.  I strongly advise getting the 1877 marriage certificate.

https://www.bdm.vic.gov.au/research-and-family-history/search-your-family-history

Debra 

[tarapre]

Victorian registry indexes are available online.  I strongly advise getting the 1877 marriage certificate.

https://www.bdm.vic.gov.au/research-and-family-history/search-your-family-history

Debra 

Thank you, Ok !

[ciderdrinker]

Hello
I had a good look for Robert John Turnball and Isabella Ann Turnbull over in Victoria.
Sadly it looks like Isabella spent much of her life in Asylums for the mentally ill.
She entered Fairfield Asylum Melbourne 10.7.1869
Her husband John was in North Cote and she was a housewife aged 34
Suffering from mania
1871 transferred to Metropolitan Asylum
1893 -1910 boarded out with carpenter and then Mrs Murphy
1910 Sudbury HJ
She sadly died 9.7.1921 at Ballarat Asylum of heart and kidney disease.

Her husband may be the Robert Turnbull born 1835 died Ararat Victoria in 1900.

And while I'm here I'm going to take a guess at Robert John Turnbull and his parents
I think he is the John Turnbull baptised at Gateshead 12.10.1834 to William and Margaret Turnbull stone mason.
The couple married at Newcatle u Tyne 16.3.1834 .She was a Margaret Brown.
1851 census
William L Turnbull 41 stone mason Heworth
Margaret 41   Gateshead
John 16 apprentice wood tuner
Elizabeth 15 Heworth
Robert 14
William l 10 Gateshead
Charles 6 Gateshead

There that's my punt.

Ciderdrinker

[River Tyne Lass]

https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=809561.msg6693692#new

I looked up the John Turnbull & Isabella Ann Oliver marriage today mentioned in post 9. . See link for info found.

[ciderdrinker]

Sorry to go and ask someone for you but I just had to know the answer.
Thank you River Tyne Lass you are brilliant!

Ciderdrinker

[tarapre]

Sorry to go and ask someone for you but I just had to know the answer.
Thank you River Tyne Lass you are brilliant!

Ciderdrinker

No apology needed at all !!! - Thank you so much for going to the extra effort of asking elsewhere!
MUCH appreciated !!!