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Will of Thomas Death 1566 of Shimpling
« on: Thursday 07 March 19 03:15 GMT (UK) »
Could I again ask for help with transcribing the above will. It is two pages and I have divided the first page into 3 Snippets and and the second into two. In Snippet 1, please just transcribe any names and dates, not the usual preamble. Here are Snippets 1 and 2. Help is appreciated. Thanks, francoso

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Re: Will of Thomas Death 1566 of Shimpling
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 07 March 19 05:21 GMT (UK) »
To the end of #2:

Will date:  26 February 1566


                                                 ...And then I

geve to Denyos Coap(er) my servannte one bullocke

of two yeare age and one of my beste shepe and

the Lambe to be delyvered at Easter nexte after

my decease  It(e)m I geve to Elisabeth my

Daughter two of my beste beastes and the calfis

[by?] their sides to be delyvered at Easter nexte after

my decease And the saide Elisabeth to Let my

sonne Roberte have the occupienge of the said two

beastes doinge as another [man?] will doe and one

shepe the beste and the Lambe to be delyvered at the seid

Easter and the saide Elisabeth to have xli at

the age of xxj yeares and all her mothers Raymente

both Lynnen and wollen and the hutch that it is in

It(e)m I will that Thomas my sonne shall have at...

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Re: Will of Thomas Death 1566 of Shimpling
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 07 March 19 07:50 GMT (UK) »
Thanks hd86. Here are Snippets 3, 4, and 5 transcription of which would be appreciated. francoso

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Re: Will of Thomas Death 1566 of Shimpling
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 07 March 19 14:10 GMT (UK) »
Snippet #3:

...mydsommer nexte after my decease vli and other

vli at the age of xxv yeares It(e)m I will that

Edwarde my sonne shall have at mydsommer nexte

after my decease vli and other vli at the age

of xxj yeares and to have my horse caulled [Raid?]

betwixte this and whit sondaye when he shall

thincke moste meteste for his proficte It(e)m I will

and Assigne that Roberte my sonne shall have

my howse and my Lande called markittes and

[weamelles?] and Tom Smythes shoppe with all

my whole Landes Lyenge within the p(ar)ish of

Shimplinge aforsaide to him and to his heires for...

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Re: Will of Thomas Death 1566 of Shimpling
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 07 March 19 21:06 GMT (UK) »
4 & 5

ever uppon condicion, that is to sayeí that if the
said Roberte have yssue of his bodie lawfully
begotten And if the said Roberte ....................
yssue of his bodie Lawfully begotten then I
will that my sonne John shall have the said premisses
uppon like condicion that my said sonne Roberte 
shall have it savinge I will that yf my sonne
John shall happen to have it, then I will that he
shall paye to every one of my children then beinge
Alyve v li A pece And if the said John doe my
sonne doe departe without yssue of his body Law
fully begotten then I will that my howse and
my Landes shall remaine to the nexte of my stocke
and so to goe fro one to the other throughe my whole

kyined uppon like condicion, To this my presente
testamente and Laste will I do ordaine and
make my faithfull executor Roberte my sonne &
Roberte Smythe my couzin to be sup(er)visor to se all
thinges p(er)formed accordinge to this my Laste 
will and to have for his paines iijs iiijd witnesses
John Dethe Sir Bennet Huddesball(?) willm Cricke
of Lawsell(?) and Harry Butler with others


I managed to make out some of the words where it's all black, but not quite the last few!
Lane, Burgess: Cheshire. Finney, Rogers, Gilman:Derbys
Cochran, Nicol, Paton, Bruce:Scotland. Bertolle:London
Bainbridge, Christman, Jeffs: Staffs

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Re: Will of Thomas Death 1566 of Shimpling
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 07 March 19 21:39 GMT (UK) »
Thanks so much hd86 and goldie61. I have tried tinkering with Snippet 4 and posted below a part of that Snippet that contains the very dark line or two. Perhaps you could have another look at this smal part and see if it is any clearer for you to transcribe. Again, many thanks, francoso

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Re: Will of Thomas Death 1566 of Shimpling
« Reply #6 on: Friday 08 March 19 00:52 GMT (UK) »
Iím afraid I canít help with the blackened line, but hereís the gist of the probate clause:

This will was proved at Melford before Master John Muriell, Bachelor of Laws, commissary and lawfully delegated official within the Archdeaconry of Sudbury, on the 10th day of May in the year of the Lord 1566 by the executor, sworn in form of law.

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Re: Will of Thomas Death 1566 of Shimpling
« Reply #7 on: Friday 08 March 19 01:10 GMT (UK) »
Thanks, Bookbox. It all helps paint the picture of "who's who". Regards, francoso

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Re: Will of Thomas Death 1566 of Shimpling
« Reply #8 on: Friday 08 March 19 01:13 GMT (UK) »
Yes I tried tinkering with that snippet too, but it didn't help much!  :)
I can't see any more in the new bit you have posted.

Where did you get the will?
It's obviously been scanned. There must be the original somewhere.
In the past, when I have had some query about a bad scan, I have written to the Record Office concerned  (the originals were usually held at a Record Office), and asked if they would be very kind and look at the original to see if they could make out what was written. I have to say they have always been incredibly helpful, and I don't think there has been a time they haven't come back with the information.
Worth a shot if you really want to know what it says.
Lane, Burgess: Cheshire. Finney, Rogers, Gilman:Derbys
Cochran, Nicol, Paton, Bruce:Scotland. Bertolle:London
Bainbridge, Christman, Jeffs: Staffs