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Re: How to pronounce ancestors names.
« Reply #18 on: Saturday 09 March 19 13:31 GMT (UK) »
Scottish place names are fun...

Anstruther
Culzean
Dalziel
Kilconquhar
Kirkcaldy
Kirkcudbright
Scone
Wemyss

But try swimming in Lochnagar!  :P

Annie

Your post has made me think. I pronounce Wemyss in Wemyss Bay differently from the Wemyss in East Wemyss. Wonder why.

I pronounce the others:

Ain-ster
Cull-ain
Day-al
Kill-conkar
Kir-caw-day
Kir-coo-bray
Skoon
Wimss if Wemyss Bay but Weems if East Wemyss.
Campbell, Dunn, Dickson, Fell, Forest, Norie, Pratt, Somerville, Thompson, Tyler among others

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Re: How to pronounce ancestors names.
« Reply #19 on: Saturday 09 March 19 14:22 GMT (UK) »
Dalziel = D'liel (so I'm told) - my father was born there.
Kilconquhar = Kinnocher/Kinnucher (how I've heard it)
Wemyss = Weems (how I've heard it)

Scone = Scoon but heard tv presenters & others pronounce it as * Scoane or Scone (a baked scone).

How can anyone get Scone wrong which is known to all as an historic place i.e. Scone Palace but tv folk have a habit of referring to it as either of the above *...why aren't they told the correct pronunciation?

Annie

South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie, MacDonald, MacInnes, MacIntyre, MacKinnon, Steele, Walker

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, MacKinnon, MacPhee

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Re: How to pronounce ancestors names.
« Reply #20 on: Saturday 09 March 19 14:27 GMT (UK) »
An old joke, slightly off Topic, try GHOTI.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghoti

Viktoria, the Loughborough arts Festival is called the Loogabarooga Festival!

Martin
Oh ,and I thought that was in The Anti podes(rhymes with nodes)
And the place named Egg wiped , Capital city Cairo
There was a Queen there ,Clee op tra.
Thanks Mart,nice to know these things ;D ;D

What about Slough ,which we pronounced as Sluff when we used to listen to Radio Luxembourg, and Horlicks had competitions, you sent in labels but I never heard it spoken, we had a Park not too far away known as Boggart Hole Clough,( Cluff) so it was Sluff to us.
I told you we were common as muck!
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Re: How to pronounce ancestors names.
« Reply #21 on: Saturday 09 March 19 14:29 GMT (UK) »
Dalzell I was told by my aunt (Born Pfisterer!!) was pronounced De-ell,
Whitlow: Witton-cum-Twambrooks/Northwich
Owen: Cheshire
Pfisterer (Fisher): West Riding Yks 1850-1875
Fisher (Pfisterer): Des Moines, Iowa 1886-
Wallis: West Riding Yks/Des Moines, Iowa, 1892-
Heinzmann: Hull/Northwich
Pfisterer, Heinzmann, Künzelsau, Baden-Württemberg
Brueck: Kocherstetten B-W
Volpp: Morsbach B-W
Schluchterer: Künzelsau, B-W

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Re: How to pronounce ancestors names.
« Reply #22 on: Saturday 09 March 19 16:09 GMT (UK) »
And I would say Slaithwaite = Slawwit ?

And you would be right.
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Re: How to pronounce ancestors names.
« Reply #23 on: Saturday 09 March 19 16:23 GMT (UK) »
Place-names are difficult too.

How would you pronounce Ulgham?

or Slaithwaite or Torpenhow?  (Neither as you might think!)

Trpenha - this makes me think us Cumbrians have problems with the placement of the letter "r" in placenames as the pronunciation bears no relation to it spelling - thinking about Burgh, Longburgh, Drumburgh and Thurstonfield!

Also I've always wondered how Happisburgh in Norfolk got its pronuciation or spelling!
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Re: How to pronounce ancestors names.
« Reply #24 on: Saturday 09 March 19 16:28 GMT (UK) »
Dalziel = D'liel (so I'm told) - my father was born there.
Kilconquhar = Kinnocher/Kinnucher (how I've heard it)
Wemyss = Weems (how I've heard it)

Scone = Scoon but heard tv presenters & others pronounce it as * Scoane or Scone (a baked scone).

How can anyone get Scone wrong which is known to all as an historic place i.e. Scone Palace but tv folk have a habit of referring to it as either of the above *...why aren't they told the correct pronunciation?

Annie


It is strange because when The Stone of Scone(Scoon) was stolen from the Coronation chair I remember hearing the pronunciation Scoon,on Radio and
T.V!

People in The Lake  District do have trouble with r ,especially those who live
Near Whitehaven.



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Re: How to pronounce ancestors names.
« Reply #25 on: Saturday 09 March 19 16:29 GMT (UK) »
Place-names are difficult too.

How would you pronounce Ulgham?

or Slaithwaite or Torpenhow?  (Neither as you might think!)

Trpenha - this makes me think us Cumbrians have problems with the placement of the letter "r" in placenames as the pronunciation bears no relation to it spelling - thinking about Burgh, Longburgh, Drumburgh and Thurstonfield!


Yes, I’m always confused that Burgh by Sands is pronounced Brough by Sands!
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Re: How to pronounce ancestors names.
« Reply #26 on: Saturday 09 March 19 16:31 GMT (UK) »
Place-names are difficult too.

How would you pronounce Ulgham?

or Slaithwaite or Torpenhow?  (Neither as you might think!)

Trpenha - this makes me think us Cumbrians have problems with the placement of the letter "r" in placenames as the pronunciation bears no relation to it spelling - thinking about Burgh, Longburgh, Drumburgh and Thurstonfield!


Yes, I’m always confused that Burgh by Sands is pronounced Brough by Sands!
That's the posh way (ough) - locally Bruff
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