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Occupation "lady" on marriage cert.
« on: Saturday 09 March 19 22:42 GMT (UK) »
I have a marriage certificate that lists the bride's occupation as "lady".
Any idea what this means?
She is not a royal, by the way!!

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Re: Occupation "lady" on marriage cert.
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 10 March 19 00:54 GMT (UK) »
Since no one else has offered an opinion yet..

My first inclination would be to think that this was a woman who had some form of independent income, and so did not have an occupation as such.

Or, she just plain lived at home with her parents and was supported by them in the style she hoped to improve  upon with marriage
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Re: Occupation "lady" on marriage cert.
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 10 March 19 21:06 GMT (UK) »
 Were they a well-to-do family? What was her father’s occupation?

What was the year of the marriage?

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Re: Occupation "lady" on marriage cert.
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 10 March 19 23:24 GMT (UK) »
I would interpret that as meaning that she came from a wealthy background, had an allowance and therefore didn't need to work, but, I could be wrong.
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Re: Occupation "lady" on marriage cert.
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 10 March 19 23:36 GMT (UK) »
She might have had ideas above her station.  ;) It is more usual to see the men calling themselves "gentleman" (whether they were or not).  :)

I was interested in her family background, date of marriage, did she sign ... that sort of thing, which may indicate her "status".

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Re: Occupation "lady" on marriage cert.
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 12 May 19 01:31 BST (UK) »
sorry for the late response .... I will track down the document to see her background .... I have been working on another branch of the tree!
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Re: Occupation "lady" on marriage cert.
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 12 May 19 01:46 BST (UK) »
Interesting post...I've never come across one myself...what was her occ. on the census prior to marriage too & who was she living with etc...was she left money in a will, how old was she when she married...lots of questions  ;)

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Re: Occupation "lady" on marriage cert.
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 12 May 19 01:49 BST (UK) »
Are they the Leitrim/Sligo family?

If so, Thomas was Esq
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Re: Occupation "lady" on marriage cert.
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 12 May 19 02:40 BST (UK) »
Until after WWII, many / most females of marriageable age in NSW were unskilled for any formal occupation away from home/household duties, and so you will often find on NSW BDM marriage registrations, particularly from say 1920 to mid 1950s that the bride’s occupation is either a horizontal line or it is ‘domestic’ or ‘lady’ or if their usual address is not the family home, then they are a ‘governess’ or ‘nurse’ or ‘teacher’ .   

When following up on these ‘occupations’  I can assure you that it is just as frequent to find ‘domestic’ or ‘lady’ to mean ‘she still lives at home and helps with the domestic chores of daily living without being given any wage as though an employee’ as to find it meant ‘ paid a wage as a domestic servant’ and the occupation/profession/rank of the father had no real impact or bearing.   Father could be a leading politician,  perhaps even a Prime Minister or the most senior Barrister or Stock Broker or street cleaner, or not even named on the m.c.  or perhaps in a state institution never to return to the family – shell shock from WWI -  but ‘lady’ (or any other word) was simply the word chosen by the Clergy (rather than by the bride) to record on the marriage register.


I am sure that a similar concept (the clergy determining the descriptor/noun) would apply far and wide across Australia and likely throughout the then British Empire in that final flourish of Empire.


I should also note that in NSW “Esq” was frequently used as an alternative to ‘Mr.’  when addressing an envelope so Fred Bloggs Esq and Mr F Bloggs  were one and the same in 20th Century to about 1980 …  notice that Fred can be Esq  but Mr would not be Mr Fred Bloggs …    So basically, if you wanted to show you knew Fred then you wrote Fred Bloggs Esq,  but if you did not know him, you wrote Mr F Bloggs …. And of course,  Fred’s wife, regardless of her own given name, was Mrs F Bloggs …   Social Conventions that have long gone now.,…  perhaps even the NSW ones varied from district to district or from rural to urban and of course, across time.   :D  :D  :D


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