Ayres/Louder Croydon, Surrey UK

[Mitche11]

I have received Walter Louder's birth certificate, see below for details:

Born: 5th March 1904 - 36 Dryden Road, Croydon
Name: Walter
Sex: Boy
Name of father: Andrew Louder
Name and maiden surname of mother: Mary Ann Louder formerly Ayres
Rank or profession of father: Hawker

I cannot find a marriage record for a Andrew Louder marrying a Mary Ann Ayres. Can anyone help?

[rosie99]

I wonder if it is this one with yet another surname for Mary A

Marriages Sep qtr 1885 
Gardener    Mary Ann       
Lee     Matilda       
Lowder    Andrew
Marshall Jacob       
Dartford    2a   705

Marriage images are on Ancestry.  Both Marriages have occupations as Hawker and Andrews names his father surname Stacey.

[Mitche11]

Yes I believe that is correct but how did Mary Ann Ayres become Gardner? I have found baptism records for all Andrew and Mary Ann's children but all the birth records I have found all have different mother's maiden names. I am hitting so many brick walls with this family so any help is much appreciated.

[charmain]

I wonder if it is this one with yet another surname for Mary A

Marriages Sep qtr 1885 
Gardener    Mary Ann       
Lee     Matilda       
Lowder    Andrew
Marshall Jacob       
Dartford    2a   705

Marriage images are on Ancestry.  Both Marriages have occupations as Hawker and Andrews names his father surname Stacey.

.my father Charlie louder was son of Walter louder
Walter was pot man at spread Eagle  in Croydon. Me granny Jane brought up the children on her own

[charmain]

I have received Walter Louder's birth certificate, see below for details:

Born: 5th March 1904 - 36 Dryden Road, Croydon
Name: Walter
Sex: Boy
Name of father: Andrew Louder
Name and maiden surname of mother: Mary Ann Louder formerly Ayres
Rank or profession of father: Hawker

I cannot find a marriage record for a Andrew Louder marrying a Mary Ann Ayres. Can anyone help?

Walter lived wisbech toad in Croydon next to his sister in law and cremated 1979 and up by sundial in Croydon cemetery
How you related

[charmain]

I have received Walter Louder's birth certificate, see below for details:

Born: 5th March 1904 - 36 Dryden Road, Croydon
Name: Walter
Sex: Boy
Name of father: Andrew Louder
Name and maiden surname of mother: Mary Ann Louder formerly Ayres
Rank or profession of father: Hawker

I cannot find a marriage record for a Andrew Louder marrying a Mary Ann Ayres. Can anyone help?

Yes I believe that is correct but how did Mary Ann Ayres become Gardner? I have found baptism records for all Andrew and Mary Ann's children but all the birth records I have found all have different mother's maiden names. I am hitting so many brick walls with this family so any help is much appreciated.

.Walter louder was my grandfather and I received the same copy of birth certificate  .Walter worked spread Eagle pub Croydon as a pot man
 Me granny left him in the  mid to late 1940s

[charmain]

I'm trying to find information on my husbands Gt Grandfather, Walter Louder. What I know so far: Walter was born in Croydon, Surrey in 1904, I have found his birth record and his mother's maiden name is Ayres. I do not know the first names of his mother and father but I believe they were Romany Gypsies. On the 1911 census Walter was living at Batts Farm, Godstone, Surrey with a Andrew Louder previously Stacey and a Mary Ann Gardner but I believe they are not Walter's parents. Walter married Jane Shoebridge in 1930 and had William, Henry, Martha, Jack, Leonard, Charlie and Emily. Any information would be much appreciated.

Yes I believe that is correct but how did Mary Ann Ayres become Gardner? I have found baptism records for all Andrew and Mary Ann's children but all the birth records I have found all have different mother's maiden names. I am hitting so many brick walls with this family so any help is much appreciated.

Jane shoebridge is my granny  .Charlie  was me dad   
Are you related to Walter  louder

[Mitche11]

 
Jane shoebridge is my granny  .Charlie  was me dad   
Are you related to Walter  louder
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Walter Louder is my husband's Gt Grandfather.

[charmain]

Who was your husband mother n father