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Will of LAURENCE DEATH 1576 of SHIMPLING
« on: Monday 11 March 19 03:57 GMT (UK) »
Me again. Please would sks transcribe the above will for me. I have divided it into 3 Snippets and the first is below. Many thanks in advance. francoso

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Re: Will of LAURENCE DEATH 1576 of SHIMPLING
« Reply #1 on: Monday 11 March 19 08:12 GMT (UK) »
In the name of god Amen the xx day of October in the yeare of our lord god 1576
the eighten yeare of the reigne of our sovereigne Lady Elizabeth by the grace of *
England france & Ireland defender of the fayth. I Lawrenc Death of Shympling
in the county of Suff And in the dyoce of norwich husbandman being sicke in body but
of hole & p(er)fit remembranc thankes be unto allmyghty god do ordin & make this my last
will & testament in manner & forme followinge Revokinge  frustratinge & a voydinge all other
former wiles & testamentes heretofore by me declared or mad And firstly I will & bequeth my
sowll unto Almigty god my maker & redemer trusting that by the merites & death of his sonne
& saviour Jesus Christ to be p(ar)taker of his heavenly Kingdome (sp?) & my bodie to be buried in the church
yeard of Shimplinge a for sayd. Item I geve & bequeth to John Death my elder sonne fyve
marke to be payd in ij yeares that is fyve nobles w(i)t(h) in one yeare after my decesse & fyve nobles that
? twelmonth Item I geve & bequeth to the sonne of John my sonne one chist & a pewter dish
the best he cane chose & a candell plate Item I geve & bequeth unto Thomas my sonne fivve
marke to be payd unto him in ij yeares after his brother John be fully contented & payd that is
fyve nobles yearely in same(?) order as his brothers payment is Item I geve ^ unto ^ him one brasse pot
the greatest pot hoces one trundell bed a chist and a pewter dish Item I geve to Jone my
daughter xls** to be payd unto here ij yeares after Thomas be payd Item I geve unto Alice


* you would expect this to say 'by the grace of god queen of...', but it's pretty blurry
I think it says 'by the grace queen of...' and the clerk has missed out the word 'god'.

** tricky to see the letters for this amount.

1576 was the 18th year of Queen Elizabeth's reign.

pot hoces = pot hooks. I've seen these a lot in inventories.
Lane, Burgess: Cheshire. Finney, Rogers, Gilman:Derbys
Cochran, Nicol, Paton, Bruce:Scotland. Bertolle:London
Bainbridge, Christman, Jeffs: Staffs

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Re: Will of LAURENCE DEATH 1576 of SHIMPLING
« Reply #2 on: Monday 11 March 19 08:22 GMT (UK) »
Thanks, goldie61, that's great. Following is Snippet 2. I hope that I have an overlap. Would appreciate transcription of it at anyone's convenience. Again, thanks n advance. francoso

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Re: Will of LAURENCE DEATH 1576 of SHIMPLING
« Reply #3 on: Monday 11 March 19 09:07 GMT (UK) »
Last line of clip 1 has  an '&' at the end

............. Alice &
Susan iiij li to be payd to them in ij yeares after Jone be paid that is xx s to eyther of them yerly


Working on it!
Lane, Burgess: Cheshire. Finney, Rogers, Gilman:Derbys
Cochran, Nicol, Paton, Bruce:Scotland. Bertolle:London
Bainbridge, Christman, Jeffs: Staffs

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Re: Will of LAURENCE DEATH 1576 of SHIMPLING
« Reply #4 on: Monday 11 March 19 09:26 GMT (UK) »
Very difficult to see the letters in the interline between lines 4 & 5, and the insertion in line 6.
Hopefully somebody else can see it, and pick up a few missing words.

............. Alice &
Susan iiij li to be payd to them in ij yeares after Jone be paid that is xx s to eyther of them yerly
Item I geve to them my littell house during the tyme that they shall kepe them unmaryed
if so be that they shall stand in ned of housrome or if not I will that stebine (?) shall have the use of it
Item I geve & bequeth unto Caterin my daughtter five marke to be payd unto hire at
->> ? hire a chaffindish  ? mor?er
age of xxij yeares Item ^ I geve & bequeth unto Pernell my daughter xxs to be payd to
hir at the age of xxij yeares and ^ ?? ^ marter Item I geve unto Roger Rofi my sonne in lawe
ok?  planke Item I geve unto Giles(?) Stebman my halfe bushell & my fanne Item I geve
unto Anne Bullocke my god daughter iijs iiijd to be payd to hire at the age of xxij yeres Item I
geve to Margaret Percival (?) hir house rome during hir naturall lyfe Item I geve & bequeth
to all my god chilerne xijd a pese Item I geve unto George Death my god sonne one spit Item
I geve to Ambrose Death a dripinpan with the thron Item I geve & bequeth unto John Death
the younger of my sonnes my mention house which I now dwell in & all my land to hym &
his heires for ever Item I geve him a q? & a bedsted & a platter Item I geve
him all my thaching towls & halfe of the rest of my other towls & the other halfe I geve
unto Thomas my sonne except one byll which I geve unto my wife Item I geve to the sayd
John my grenestone one cheyer a saulting trought one trommell ij saces & the staull(?)  & a hayer
Item I geve & bequeth unto Elyzabeth my wife all all the rest of my houssold stufe
not geven & bequethed Item I geve hir hir dwelling as hir chamber & hir commit(?)



housrome = house room
Oken plank?
grenestone = grindstone?
cheyer = chair
saces = sacks
saulting trough = salting trough
byll = bill hook?
Lane, Burgess: Cheshire. Finney, Rogers, Gilman:Derbys
Cochran, Nicol, Paton, Bruce:Scotland. Bertolle:London
Bainbridge, Christman, Jeffs: Staffs

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Re: Will of LAURENCE DEATH 1576 of SHIMPLING
« Reply #5 on: Monday 11 March 19 11:03 GMT (UK) »
A couple of suggestions to add to goldie's work on the first snippet:

I'm fairly sure the missing word in the phrase about the five nobles is:  time

That is, the second payment is to made on the anniversary of the first.

In the following line it's a:  candell sticke

I think the bequest following the trundell bed is a chier rather than a chist.

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Re: Will of LAURENCE DEATH 1576 of SHIMPLING
« Reply #6 on: Monday 11 March 19 11:47 GMT (UK) »
A few suggestions for goldie's work on the second snippet:

I agree with stebine in line 3.

This could be the same name as appears lower down:  Giles Stebinne

I don't see an a in the second instance of the name.

I agree that the second item in the interlined phrase on line 5 is morter.

Not sure what precedes that word - possibly & a

It's probably an:  okine plancke

I don't think it's Percival, because the distinctive r isn't in the word.  Perhaps Penniall/Peimiall or similar?

...dripinpan with ye yron...

The bequest to John is:  a querne

I suspect the last word of the extract might prove to be coming (as in coming & going).

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Re: Will of LAURENCE DEATH 1576 of SHIMPLING
« Reply #7 on: Monday 11 March 19 17:42 GMT (UK) »
Thank you goldie61 and hd86. Many names mentioned there for me to follow up. The 3rd and last Clip is as follows and, again, your help would be appreciated, including the script in the bottom right hand corner, if relevant to this Will. Regards, francoso

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Re: Will of LAURENCE DEATH 1576 of SHIMPLING
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 12 March 19 03:26 GMT (UK) »
First half:

...& going to ye fir & to Do such busynes as she have shall have [sic] to doe during the time yt

she shall kep hir a wedow & if she shall forten to marry the(n) to depert p(re)sently Item I

will yt she shall have ye halfe of ye frut in ye orchyeard during hir widdowod Iten

I will yt she shall have a nobell a yeare during this eight yeare Item I geve my

sayd wife my horse Item I geve the noble which Roger underwod oweth me to fouer

pore me(n) that is to tou of alphetome that is Georg Shepperd & ffolchard & ij of

Shimpling that is to Spilma(n) & Thomas [Grene?] Item I geve & bequeth unto...



In the first line:

fir = fire


EDITED:

I have reviewed the name originally in [] and decided it is:  ffolchard

The text has been changed above.

ALSO:

orisynes is wrong.  The word must be:  busynes = business

The text has been changed above.