Author Topic: Will of LAURENCE DEATH 1576 of SHIMPLING  (Read 643 times)

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Re: Will of LAURENCE DEATH 1576 of SHIMPLING
« Reply #18 on: Thursday 14 March 19 01:27 GMT (UK) »
I wonder if sks would have another go at transcribing the lines (particularly the insertion above "22 years") below, starting with "Item I give and bequeath unto Caterin my daughter five marks ... ). Maybe fresh eyes can pick out the meaning.
Thanks in advance and apologies if I'm being pedantic but I think this part could be of particular importance. Regards, francoso

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Re: Will of LAURENCE DEATH 1576 of SHIMPLING
« Reply #19 on: Thursday 14 March 19 23:32 GMT (UK) »
My reading, for what itís worth, is very similar to that given above (replies 4 & 6).

Item I geve & bequeth unto Caterin my Daughtter five marke to be payd unto hire at ye

age of xxij yeares Item ^I geve hire a chaffindish & a morter^ I geve & bequeth unto Pernell my Daughter xxs to be payd to

hir at ye age of xxij yeares and a morter ...


There is an interlineation above the last word (morter), but I canít read it or understand where it should be inserted.

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Re: Will of LAURENCE DEATH 1576 of SHIMPLING
« Reply #20 on: Friday 15 March 19 00:48 GMT (UK) »
Thanks for the fresh eyes, Bookbox. I had never heard of a chaffin dish and mortar (as in pestle and mortar I presume) and have look that up. Kind regards, francoso

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Re: Will of LAURENCE DEATH 1576 of SHIMPLING
« Reply #21 on: Wednesday 20 March 19 02:41 GMT (UK) »
From as social history perspective, would sks please transcribe the attached Inventoried Goods of Laurence Death attached to his Will in 1576. Thanks in advance and kind regards. francoso

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Re: Will of LAURENCE DEATH 1576 of SHIMPLING
« Reply #22 on: Wednesday 20 March 19 03:14 GMT (UK) »
I've made a start francoso, though it's a pretty hazy image. Not good to zoom in, as it becomes even more hazy.
Any chance of a bigger file size? - you are allowed up to 500 kb, and this is under 200.
Possibly better in two halves.

'Interesting' spelling doesn't help either!  ;)

The inventarie Indented of all such goodes
and catell which weare xx Lawrence Deathes xx
late while he [lived?] of Shimplinge in the coyn
tie of Suff prysed By William Pansy
John Sawe

Imprimis in the haull a tabell a forme &
iij chayres                                                        iij s iiij d

Item in the chamber ij flack bedes w(i)t(h)
all that belonge them & iij huches                             xxs

Item in the kithin one brasse pote
ij posknetes(?)  ij skeletes a frine pann
ij spetes a [    ] a drepinpanne
iij s [           ]  ij pewtere dishes
& a chaffin dishe & a morter                                  xxs

Item ij tubes a kneding troughe
ij ce?teres a halfe busshell a fanne                      vjs
a s[   ] ij stoles & a saulting troughe                      viijd

Item in the berne a payere of
qwerenes & the haye in the bearne                   vs

Item his worckinge toles                                   xs

Item in the yeard a grenestone                      iijs
ij ladders a plancke & a bedsted                  iiijd

Item his horse                                            xiij s iiij d

Item his gesse (?)                                            ij s iiijd


                              Sum(me) totalis  iiij li iiij s


'flack bed' will be flock
'skeletes' will be skillets
'spetes' will be spits
'tubes' will be tubs
'stoles' probably stools
Lane, Burgess: Cheshire. Finney, Rogers, Gilman:Derbys
Cochran, Nicol, Paton, Bruce:Scotland. Bertolle:London
Bainbridge, Christman, Jeffs: Staffs

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Re: Will of LAURENCE DEATH 1576 of SHIMPLING
« Reply #23 on: Wednesday 20 March 19 04:24 GMT (UK) »
A few suggestions to add to goldie's work:

In the intro:

countie  [The s from the name below makes it look like a y]

John Game  [Compare the capital to Shimplinge & Suff.]

In the list:

postnetes  [= possinet = a type of skillet]

The thing after the spetes is a nander, but I don't know the meaning.

Next line:  iij sma(ll) cetteles vij pewtere dishes...

In the line after the tubes it is cellers or celters.

Next line:  a sive  [= sieve]

...& yt haye in ye bearne

Agree with gesse

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Re: Will of LAURENCE DEATH 1576 of SHIMPLING
« Reply #24 on: Wednesday 20 March 19 04:31 GMT (UK) »
A bit hard to see, but do you think it could be 'viij pewter dishes' HD?
Lane, Burgess: Cheshire. Finney, Rogers, Gilman:Derbys
Cochran, Nicol, Paton, Bruce:Scotland. Bertolle:London
Bainbridge, Christman, Jeffs: Staffs

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Re: Will of LAURENCE DEATH 1576 of SHIMPLING
« Reply #25 on: Wednesday 20 March 19 04:32 GMT (UK) »
A bit hard to see, but do you think it could be 'viij pewter dishes' HD?

Yes - I noticed that & changed my text just after posting.

ADDED:

Sorry goldie, you are saying 8 dishes.  Give me a moment.

ADDED 2:

In my opinion it's 7 (vij) dishes, but it's not clear.

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Re: Will of LAURENCE DEATH 1576 of SHIMPLING
« Reply #26 on: Wednesday 20 March 19 20:54 GMT (UK) »
Sorry, Decipherers for the poor quality of the last posting. I have now split into three Clips and will post each separately. Thanks for you patience. francoso