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Glover - would there be any listings of these anywhere?
« on: Tuesday 12 March 19 09:43 GMT (UK) »
My great grandmother, Anna Lush Roberts is shown on the 1851 Census as a glover.  I have info (I can't remember or find the slip of paper) that she went on to run a shop, maybe near her home in Fontmell Magna in Dorset.  So I'm wondering if there are any listings of shopkeepers etc in 19th century archives anywhere.
Help please, I am in Western Australia and a bit far away to search on the ground.
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Dorset - Cole, Roberts,
Northants - Mulliner, Shaw
Oxon - King, Palmer, Hedges
Lincs - Dawson, Wills, Simons
Derbys - Wills, Widdowson, Peach, Turner
Kent - Wolfe, Bowen

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Re: Glover - would there be any listings of these anywhere?
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 12 March 19 10:53 GMT (UK) »
Is she the Anna Lush Roberts that married Thomas Edward Cole in 1859 and died in London

Anna Lush Cole born c1822   died 1902   Wandsworth, London
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Re: Glover - would there be any listings of these anywhere?
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 12 March 19 11:24 GMT (UK) »
Presuming that I have the right person, from what I can see of her she moved around with her husband, no mention of an occupation for her.  Her husband died in 1888 in Chertsey.  In 1901 she was living in Putney age 79 living on own means and died in 1902.

When Thomas died in 1888 he left an estate of 683.14s.7d.

Anna left effects of 281.5s -her son Edgar Austin Cole was mentioned on the probate index.
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Re: Glover - would there be any listings of these anywhere?
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 12 March 19 11:30 GMT (UK) »
They are on the 1861 census living at Iwerne, Shaftesbury, Dorset

Thomas E Cole born 1827, farmer of 50 acres employing 2 people, born Kingston, Dorset

Anna L Cole born 1834 in Kingston, Dorset

Joseph B  R Cole, son, born 1861 in Gillingham, Dorset

This is his birth registration:-

COLE, OWEN  JOSEPH ROBERTS      (MMN) ROBERTS 
GRO Reference: 1860  D Quarter in SHAFTESBURY  Volume 05A  Page 208

I'm just wondering if the B should have been an O.

The usual place to look regarding trades is Kelly's Directories.  I always seem to get into a muddle when trying to search these online, so perhaps someone with more expertise can have a look in a Dorset one for you.
Ashford: Somerset, London
England: Devon, London, New Zealand
Holdway: Wiltshire
Hooper: Bristol, Somerset
Knowling: Devon, London
Southcott: Devon, China
Strong: Wiltshire
Watson: Cambridgeshire
White: Bristol
Windo - Gloucestershire, Somerset, Wiltshire

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Re: Glover - would there be any listings of these anywhere?
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 12 March 19 11:34 GMT (UK) »
This is the Edgar that Rosie has mentioned.

COLE, EDGAR  AUSTIN     ROBERTS 
GRO Reference: 1864  M Quarter in SHAFTESBURY  Volume 05A  Page 262

Had a daughter as well

COLE, LOUISA  ELIZABETH     ROBERTS 
GRO Reference: 1865  D Quarter in SHAFTESBURY  Volume 05A  Page 218

Living  in Hampshire in 1871.
 
Ashford: Somerset, London
England: Devon, London, New Zealand
Holdway: Wiltshire
Hooper: Bristol, Somerset
Knowling: Devon, London
Southcott: Devon, China
Strong: Wiltshire
Watson: Cambridgeshire
White: Bristol
Windo - Gloucestershire, Somerset, Wiltshire

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Re: Glover - would there be any listings of these anywhere?
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 12 March 19 11:44 GMT (UK) »
I can't see any evidence that she had a 'shop' before marriage or carried on working as a glover after she married.
Was this not an occupation that was often carried on 'at home'.    I suspect that when she was 'living on own means' in 1901 she may have been living on the money left by her husband
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Re: Glover - would there be any listings of these anywhere?
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 12 March 19 11:54 GMT (UK) »
1851 she appears to be a Assistant (Shopwoman) in Walcot, Somerset.
Cant see one that is a Glover.
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Re: Glover - would there be any listings of these anywhere?
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 12 March 19 14:41 GMT (UK) »
Thanks Rosie, Girl Guide and trish,
Yes, you have all tracked her and Thomas Cole.  Owen Joseph Robert Cole was my grandfather.
He emigrated in 1910 and had a couple of farms (wheat) here in WA.  He died in 1929.
I think I was remembering Kellys Directories from somewhere.
Thanks again for being so prompt replying.
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Dorset - Cole, Roberts,
Northants - Mulliner, Shaw
Oxon - King, Palmer, Hedges
Lincs - Dawson, Wills, Simons
Derbys - Wills, Widdowson, Peach, Turner
Kent - Wolfe, Bowen

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Re: Glover - would there be any listings of these anywhere?
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 12 March 19 16:46 GMT (UK) »
There were other trades directories e.g. Pigot's.