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Offline rosie99

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Re: Charles Edward Owtram
« Reply #27 on: Thursday 14 March 19 13:57 GMT (UK) »
I wonder if CE was officially adopted.  I presume that this search really depends on the results of your application re British Citizenship.

Lets us know when you hear from them.
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Re: Charles Edward Owtram
« Reply #28 on: Thursday 14 March 19 14:11 GMT (UK) »
Just musing CEC died in the UK so he would have had a passport to enter the country, the passport would have had to be cancelled or would have run out so presumably if it was a UK passport there would hopefully be a record of it.

Presumablythere must be some records somewhere of the son CE who is travelling in the 1950s on a UK passport issued in Uganda.

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Re: Charles Edward Owtram
« Reply #29 on: Thursday 14 March 19 14:58 GMT (UK) »
Update having just spoken to my wife in more detail....Eddie was in fact Marie Imelda's biological son, the father having been Mondone in the Seychelles. CEC married her after Eddie's birth so presumably both Marie Imelda and Eddie will have got citizenship by dint of the marriage - any thoughts anyone?
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Re: Charles Edward Owtram
« Reply #30 on: Thursday 14 March 19 15:55 GMT (UK) »
I don't know for sure but if Eddie was Marie Imelda's son he could only have become a British citizen if he was formally adopted. Otherwise he would have the nationality of Marie or Mondone.
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Re: Charles Edward Owtram
« Reply #31 on: Thursday 14 March 19 15:58 GMT (UK) »
Probably not that straightforward  Justin  :-\ 

Have you searched the different catagories on this link given to you earlier
http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/help-with-your-research/research-guides/naturalisation-british-citizenship/

Section 5 onwards - Many can be searched by name followed by nat*
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Re: Charles Edward Owtram
« Reply #32 on: Thursday 14 March 19 16:16 GMT (UK) »
Probably not that straightforward  Justin  :-\ 

Have you searched the different catagories on this link given to you earlier
http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/help-with-your-research/research-guides/naturalisation-british-citizenship/

Section 5 onwards - Many can be searched by name followed by nat*

I know...it never is  ::)

Have searched but no result for Eddie. Have, however, found a marriage record for Marie Imelda Owtram in Plymouth in 1970: CEC died in 1967 or 8, so it seems she married again - We know she was living in Plymouth as one of the children from the first marriage visited her there in 2009.
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Re: Charles Edward Owtram
« Reply #33 on: Thursday 14 March 19 16:22 GMT (UK) »
Did 'Eddie' return to England. 
I can see CEC & MI in Berkshire in the 1960's and the daughter appears to have married in the UK.
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Re: Charles Edward Owtram
« Reply #34 on: Thursday 14 March 19 16:29 GMT (UK) »
no Eddie stayed in South Africa...married three times and had in total 6 kids, all of whom we know
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Re: Charles Edward Owtram
« Reply #35 on: Thursday 14 March 19 16:30 GMT (UK) »
The daughter's name was Avril
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Dooley, Stoke-on-Trent
Boden, Stoke-on-Trent
Owtram, Plymouth, Kenya, South Africa
Baker, South Africa