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Offline Mart 'n' Al

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Totally off Topic and heraldry and badgers
« on: Friday 15 March 19 16:11 GMT (UK) »
You can tell I had trouble deciding which board deserves this.

I regularly read any comments here connected with heraldry, so you can imagine I was quite interested while reading a book, to discover that a well-known organisation has 3 badgers on its coat of arms.

Two of them stand either side of the shield as supporters, while the third one is on the crest, holding something which looks like a purse. The main part of the Shield holds 6 cloves. If you need a further clue the first 2 badgers have a collar around their necks, with a capital letter T hanging from the collar. A final clue, the organisation is based in Broxbourne.  The badgers represent good house keeping, and the cloves represent grocery.

I was unable to find the full blazon or heraldic description of the Shield. The red stripe in the centre is of note. Is it a red shield with a white shield on top and a red stripe on top of that, or is it two white half-shields on a red shield white shield with a red border??

Here is a link.

Spoiler...





https://www.heraldry-wiki.com/heraldrywiki/index.php?title=Tesco

The book I am reading is Badgerlands by Patrick Barkham, essential reading for any badger-lovers.

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Young, Adamson & Wilson, (Hartlepool). 

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Re: Totally off Topic and heraldry and badgers
« Reply #1 on: Friday 15 March 19 16:38 GMT (UK) »
Here you go:

Argent, a pallet Gules between six cloves Sable, those in dexter bendways, and those in sinister bendwise sinister, all within a bordure of the Second. For supporters are two badgers Proper, gorged of collars wherefrom are pendent Crosses of Saint Anthony Or, and for crest is another badger again proper bearing a coin purse Gules stringed and tasselled Or, all set upon a wreath of the liveries.
Garrad (Suffolk, Essex, Somerset), Crocker (Somerset), Vanstone (Devon, Jersey), Sims (Wiltshire), Bridger (Kent)

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Re: Totally off Topic and heraldry and badgers
« Reply #2 on: Friday 15 March 19 16:43 GMT (UK) »
KG, I thought you might comment. I had forgotten about the pallet. I don't think I have ever come across cloves on a shield before.  Thank you.  Did you blazon that yourself or did you find it somewhere else?

Update, I don't know why I couldn't find the following link earlier.:

https://www.reddit.com/r/heraldry/comments/2hn1vx/coat_of_arms_of_tesco/

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Loughborough and Loughbrough, (London, Hull, Pirton, Durham & Hartlepool);
Watson, (Bedlington, Jarrow & Hartlepool);
Ballard & Glassop (E. London); 
Leggett (Corton, Scarborough, Hartlepool); 
Young, Adamson & Wilson, (Hartlepool). 

I use GRAMPS v5.0 software. 

My ancestors are probably turning in their graves, not that I can actually find any of them.

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Re: Totally off Topic and heraldry and badgers
« Reply #3 on: Friday 15 March 19 20:44 GMT (UK) »
I was in a rush to go out, and forgot to mention the source! :-[

Other CoA using cloves:
    Argent, a chevron gules between nine cloves sable, three three and three--GROCERS' Company, Lond. [Inc. 1346, arms granted 1531].
    Or, a camel passant between three cloves sable--CLOVE, Wilts.
    Sable, a chevron between three cloves or--DUFFIELD.
    Vair, on a fesse gules, five cloves argent--BUSHBY, Cumberland.

From "A Glossary of Terms Used in Heraldry", James Parker 1894.
And found on https://www.heraldsnet.org/saitou/parker/index.htm

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A badger is also often referred to as a brock:
Argent, three brocks proper -- Brock (as an example)
Garrad (Suffolk, Essex, Somerset), Crocker (Somerset), Vanstone (Devon, Jersey), Sims (Wiltshire), Bridger (Kent)

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Re: Totally off Topic and heraldry and badgers
« Reply #4 on: Friday 15 March 19 21:08 GMT (UK) »


Why not just ask about "Mercatories Coenascent" or "Rampant Badgers ?     


There are enough of ("Herts"-based) ex-IT permies/contractors/suppliers who could have answered the question(s) instantly.     


Salaries and / or invoices paid on time for 100 years this year.     
[ I wonder how many IT staff, perm or otherwise, "Jack" had in 1919? ]
Bet Kev knows the answer . . . . .   


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