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Re: Very old picture on sheet metal for Date please Possibly McMarth
« Reply #9 on: Monday 18 March 19 07:27 GMT (UK) »
As this looks like an amatueur photo (unless it was a professional’s reject), Wikipedia tells me that the box brownie camera was introduced in 1900. I wonder if this photo was taken with one? That would date this photo to 1900 or later.  :-\

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Re: Very old picture on sheet metal for Date please Possibly McMarth
« Reply #10 on: Monday 18 March 19 07:37 GMT (UK) »
On a metal plate Ruskie?
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Re: Very old picture on sheet metal for Date please Possibly McMarth
« Reply #11 on: Monday 18 March 19 08:06 GMT (UK) »
Tintypes went on to early 1900s. I'd say that this is early 1900s (length of skirts, etc)

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Re: Very old picture on sheet metal for Date please Possibly McMarth
« Reply #12 on: Monday 18 March 19 08:38 GMT (UK) »


Interesting - I think they are standing under a stone arch - are they? 

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Re: Very old picture on sheet metal for Date please Possibly McMarth
« Reply #13 on: Monday 18 March 19 10:37 GMT (UK) »
I really like the little boy in the middle.  Looks like he has a boy or cub scout uniform and hat.  May be a school uniform of some sort.
I don't think it is a uniform. Sailor outfits were very popular for boys in the early 1900s
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Re: Very old picture on sheet metal for Date please Possibly McMarth
« Reply #14 on: Monday 18 March 19 10:51 GMT (UK) »
Late 1890's - early 1900's is about right.
The 2 girls are wearing the late 1890's style of Gigot sleeve.
The boy is wearing what was commonly called a Jolly Tar.
The gilt frame has been recycled from an early tintype or ambrotype.
Tintypes enjoyed a re-emergence 1880's - early 1900's with travelling photographers.
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Re: Very old picture on sheet metal for Date please Possibly McMarth
« Reply #15 on: Monday 18 March 19 11:29 GMT (UK) »
I really like the little boy in the middle.  Looks like he has a boy or cub scout uniform and hat.  May be a school uniform of some sort.
I don't think it is a uniform. Sailor outfits were very popular for boys in the early 1900s
http://histclo.tripod.com/sailors.html

I have a photo of my father's elder brother wearing an outfit like that in 1902  :)
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« Reply #16 on: Monday 18 March 19 11:59 GMT (UK) »
My guess would have been late 1890s early 1900s and that the case was much earlier. It looks like two of the children have moved their heads as the photo was being taken.
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Re: Very old picture on sheet metal for Date please Possibly McMarth
« Reply #17 on: Monday 18 March 19 12:48 GMT (UK) »
The location, I think, is in the Silvertown area of Essex ... the date I'm a little less certain about, but probably turn of century depending upon whose son that is centrally in photo.

The two gentlemen are William and Hugh McMarth. Both sugar refiners at Lyle's at Plaistow Wharf, who lived at 9 & 11 Boxley St/Rd, North Woolwich, in 1901. They were two of the original workers at Lyle's photographed in 1892 outside the works (they look a little younger in that photo). Over time 4 generations of McMarths worked at Lyle's.
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