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Horse trainers and jockeys
« on: Monday 18 March 19 20:58 GMT (UK) »
Does anyone know if any historic records are kept for trainers and jockeys particularly at Epsom. Prob 1900s.
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Re: Horse trainers and jockeys
« Reply #1 on: Monday 18 March 19 23:00 GMT (UK) »
Having trouble finding anything that relates to historical records on the internet.

May I suggest that you contact the Jockey Club?  Bit of info below re contacts.

Managers of first-class training facilities and property

Jockey Club Estates manages a substantial and diverse property portfolio and is responsible for the management and maintenance of facilities at three major racehorse training centres, Newmarket, Lambourn and Epsom. The Managing Director is Nick Patton.

Below is a link to the website that takes you to the above section.

https://jockeyclubestates.co.uk/contact


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Re: Horse trainers and jockeys
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 19 March 19 13:13 GMT (UK) »
This isn't an area I know much about, but you could try the National Horse Racing Museum:

https://www.palacehousenewmarket.co.uk/collections/national-horseracing-museum

They also have some information online (mainly photos?):

http://www.horseracinghistory.co.uk/hrho/action/viewHomepage
Researching among others:
Bartle, Bilton, Bingley, Campbell, Craven, Emmott, Harcourt, Hirst, Kellet(t), Kennedy,
Meaburn, Mennile/Meynell, Metcalf(e), Palliser, Robinson, Rutter, Shipley, Stow, Wilkinson

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Re: Horse trainers and jockeys
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 19 March 19 13:41 GMT (UK) »
I found quite a number of race reports for my Grandfather (jockey) and great grandfather (trainer) in the 1920s & 30s. They weren't professional, local point to points mainly, but had horses on the yard belonging to Lord & Lady Stanley. Turns out one of his mounts was called Jenny Wren which was his 'pet' name for my grandmother. Might be worth a shot if you have any names
Newson, Steavenson, Walker, Taylor, Dobson, Gardner, Clark, Wilson, Smith, Crossland, Goldfinch, Burnett, Hebdon, Peers, Strother, Askew, Bower, Beckwith, Patton, White, Turner, Nelson, Gilpin, Tomlinson, Thompson, Spedding, Wilkes, Carr, Butterfield, Ormandy, Wilkinson, Cocking, Glover, Pennington, Bowker, Kitching, Langhorn, Haworth, Kirkham.


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Re: Horse trainers and jockeys
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 19 March 19 17:23 GMT (UK) »
Thanks for all replies. I did find a website for trainers and jockeys for the 1800s but it only named the winning horse, jockey and trainer. I am interested in 1890-2. He, ie Walter James Gubby was named in the 1891 census and other docs as being trainer or jockey, living at Epsom. 1894 he was a turf reporter. His son Walter William was a groom.

Will look into a few of your suggestions.
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« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 19 March 19 17:58 GMT (UK) »
Found this from Sporting Life 11 May 1887, sounds like your man
Newson, Steavenson, Walker, Taylor, Dobson, Gardner, Clark, Wilson, Smith, Crossland, Goldfinch, Burnett, Hebdon, Peers, Strother, Askew, Bower, Beckwith, Patton, White, Turner, Nelson, Gilpin, Tomlinson, Thompson, Spedding, Wilkes, Carr, Butterfield, Ormandy, Wilkinson, Cocking, Glover, Pennington, Bowker, Kitching, Langhorn, Haworth, Kirkham.

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« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 19 March 19 18:07 GMT (UK) »
Also this The Sportsman 14 December 1887
Newson, Steavenson, Walker, Taylor, Dobson, Gardner, Clark, Wilson, Smith, Crossland, Goldfinch, Burnett, Hebdon, Peers, Strother, Askew, Bower, Beckwith, Patton, White, Turner, Nelson, Gilpin, Tomlinson, Thompson, Spedding, Wilkes, Carr, Butterfield, Ormandy, Wilkinson, Cocking, Glover, Pennington, Bowker, Kitching, Langhorn, Haworth, Kirkham.

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« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 19 March 19 18:21 GMT (UK) »
Several adverts in these London papers (1887) selling hacks, polo ponies, hunters and a Galloway!
Newson, Steavenson, Walker, Taylor, Dobson, Gardner, Clark, Wilson, Smith, Crossland, Goldfinch, Burnett, Hebdon, Peers, Strother, Askew, Bower, Beckwith, Patton, White, Turner, Nelson, Gilpin, Tomlinson, Thompson, Spedding, Wilkes, Carr, Butterfield, Ormandy, Wilkinson, Cocking, Glover, Pennington, Bowker, Kitching, Langhorn, Haworth, Kirkham.

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« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 19 March 19 23:09 GMT (UK) »
What a result! Thanks so very much. So where did you actually search for this info? Was it in historical papers on ancestry or some such? MAGIC
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