Author Topic: Roger Hornblow of Thatcham, Berks. Will & Inventory of 1670 - 1.  (Read 3464 times)

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Re: Roger Hornblow of Thatcham, Berks. Will & Inventory of 1670 - 1.
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 20 March 19 13:05 GMT (UK) »
Sorry - forgot the  next bit... I think it's "giving to my" and "their" in line 10.
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Re: Roger Hornblow of Thatcham, Berks. Will & Inventory of 1670 - 1.
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 20 March 19 13:15 GMT (UK) »
I agree with Suffolkgal, and I think 'after her decease' belongs near the end of line 9. There look to be a pair of ^ symbols indicating the omission between 'Hornblow' and 'giving'.

I'm slightly unsure about 'giving to my' as it wouldn't be quite grammatical, but I can't think what else it would be.
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Re: Roger Hornblow of Thatcham, Berks. Will & Inventory of 1670 - 1.
« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 20 March 19 13:20 GMT (UK) »
You're quite right, Arthurk.  It's "giving to the" as the next line reads "rest of my children aforesaid"
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Re: Roger Hornblow of Thatcham, Berks. Will & Inventory of 1670 - 1.
« Reply #12 on: Wednesday 20 March 19 14:03 GMT (UK) »
I did wonder about 'the' (or th[e]), but what I initially took to be the 't' is the descender of a long 's' in the word above. Also, the writer's 'h' has a loop at the top.

So the only letter I can clearly make out of this is 'y', and I was prepared to accept there might be a very small 'm' before it. But if it's a 'y' thorn (see reply #2 from goldie61), then is it just that with the 'e' omitted? Or is there a very faint hint of something following it?
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Meaburn, Mennile/Meynell, Metcalf(e), Palliser, Robinson, Rutter, Shipley, Stow, Wilkinson

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Re: Roger Hornblow of Thatcham, Berks. Will & Inventory of 1670 - 1.
« Reply #13 on: Wednesday 20 March 19 15:30 GMT (UK) »
In my opinion it's:

                         ...giving to ye

Rest of my Children after [the?]...


There are two overlapping e's at the end of the interlined word decease.  One belongs to the ye in the line proper.

The last underlined word is either the or ther depending on context.  We need the next line to say which.

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Re: Roger Hornblow of Thatcham, Berks. Will & Inventory of 1670 - 1.
« Reply #14 on: Wednesday 20 March 19 17:12 GMT (UK) »
Here is the next line and also the bit more that will complete the page.
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Re: Roger Hornblow of Thatcham, Berks. Will & Inventory of 1670 - 1.
« Reply #15 on: Wednesday 20 March 19 17:18 GMT (UK) »
                             ...after the

decease of there* father twelfe

pence a peece where unto I have...



* Read as their

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Re: Roger Hornblow of Thatcham, Berks. Will & Inventory of 1670 - 1.
« Reply #16 on: Thursday 21 March 19 07:35 GMT (UK) »
The inventory presents a different problem for I am not  au fait with the terms being used, quite apart from thr writing problem. I hope this will be more interesting for my helpers to whom i am full of thanks. Toby.

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Re: Roger Hornblow of Thatcham, Berks. Will & Inventory of 1670 - 1.
« Reply #17 on: Thursday 21 March 19 09:08 GMT (UK) »
2nd line:
dessed - which I take to be a form of ‘deceased’.    WillAem Cox

Item his wareinge Aparelle and mones in his pocket    2  10   0
in his logenge Chambere to bed steedes                        7   0    0
four sheetes to pelloes one bollsster one bed one
bed steede one side Coberd one Chesste one boxe


mones = monies
logenge = lodging
pelloes = pillows
coberd = cupboard

I thought at first it was  '1 pound' value of all those things in his lodging chamber, but the numeral looks remarkably like the '7' in the date of 1671 at the top, and quite different to the '1'. 7 pounds seems a lot to me though..........
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