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Re: Family lived on canal boats
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 20 March 19 19:48 GMT (UK) »
Unfortunately I don't live locally to where my family are from, so am trying to find out as much as I can online until I can get up to staffs to have a poke around the archives!
Attached is the pic of my great gran and 2 of her sons :)

Ps just done a bit of digging and Ravensdale did come under Wolstanton which means it would come under Newcastle-under-lyme registry at the time so Ellen and Helen could very well be the same person :) thank you!

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Re: Family lived on canal boats
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 20 March 19 19:56 GMT (UK) »
Hi again, from the GRO Index c 1896 we have these Theobold/Davenport births possibly twins:-

Constance May
Mary Elizabeth
Both Dec qtr 1895 Wolstanton mmn Davenport?
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Re: Family lived on canal boats
« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 20 March 19 20:15 GMT (UK) »
Hi if I have the correct family in 1901, census ref RG13/3351/82/33 Henry/Ellen & Ellen had a son/brother Henry b 1900 look to be mmn Keen?
 ??? Really odd I can see the marriage of Henry Theobald to Ellen Davenport at Sneyd, Holy Trinity 23rd April 1893, fathers John Theobald &:George Davenport but once again an Ellen Theobald birth Sept qtr 1897 Wolverhampton mmn KEAN?
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Re: Family lived on canal boats
« Reply #12 on: Wednesday 20 March 19 20:37 GMT (UK) »
Hi if I have the correct family in 1901, census ref RG13/3351/82/33 Henry/Ellen & Ellen had a son/brother Henry b 1900 look to be mmn Keen?
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Quite possibly, this is the line i found and have been trying to follow http://www.boatfamilies.website/familychart.php?personID=I26644&tree=CanalFamily1
I haven't seen the name Keen come up yet though, and there seems to be a bit of dircrepancy around the year and where the younger Henry was born. My attachment shows born 1899 and says he was either born in rode heath or runcorn!


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Re: Family lived on canal boats
« Reply #13 on: Wednesday 20 March 19 20:51 GMT (UK) »
Lol I'm glad I'm not the only one who is finding it all odd! :D Me and my mum have had many a discussion about this and both agree that there is a 'missing link' somewhere because things don't add up from the story's we've been told and the amount of secrecy in the family....maybe Keen/Kean is this missing link!?!

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Re: Family lived on canal boats
« Reply #14 on: Wednesday 20 March 19 20:58 GMT (UK) »
 :) So just when did the Theobald/Theobold family become Boatman, as Henry married as a Miner?
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Re: Family lived on canal boats
« Reply #15 on: Wednesday 20 March 19 21:44 GMT (UK) »
As far as im aware as far back as it goes...this is where I find out im following the wrong line somewhere :D
Some lovely people on the live chat have just had some break through information for me though on my great grandad Charles Bould

'name: Charles Bould
Gender: Male
Marital status: Married
Birth Date: 2 Jul 1897
Residence Year: 1939
Address: "Pink" Palm Anderson Drary Ravensdate
Residence Place: Stoke-on-Trent, Staffordshire, England
Occupation: Carne Boatman Heavy Worker
Schedule Number: 1
Sub Schedule Number: 1
Enumeration District: ONAO
Registration district: 360-1
Inferred Spouse: Helen Bould
Inferred Children: Lily Bould
Household Members:
Name
Charles Bould
Helen Bould

Spouse: Ellen Theobald
Children: ellen
Birth: 20 Dec 1896
Death: Jun 1977 Stoke-on-Trent, Staffordshire, England

Name: Charles Bould
Age in 1911: 13
Estimated birth year: abt 1898
Relation to Head: Son
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Sandbach, Cheshire, England
Civil Parish: Sandbach
County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England
Street address: 447 Crewe Rd Wheelock Nr Sandbach
Registration district: Congleton
Registration District Number: 448
Sub-registration district: Sandbach
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Piece: 21744
Household Members:
Name Age
William Bould 49
Sabrina Bould 47
Eliza Bould 21
Selena Bould 19
Mary Bould 17
Charles Bould 13
Esther Bould 10
Betsy Ellen Bould 7

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Re: Family lived on canal boats
« Reply #16 on: Wednesday 20 March 19 23:38 GMT (UK) »
 :) OK so Ellen not Helen Theobald was baptised 2nd July 1897 Wolverhampton St Mary, Father Henry occ Boatman Mother Ellen address Canal boat Torquay.
When/where was Lily Bould born 21st May 1933? Ok found her, two children show mmn Theobalds/Theobolds and one Theabald?!


Possibly the marriage should be Henry Theobald to Ellen Keene Dec qtr 1895 Shardlow?

Henry Theobald 38
Ellen Keene 25
2nd December 1895 Long Eaton, Derbyshire
Fathers Thomas Theobald William Keene.
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PS so Henry aged 44 occ Carrying Potters Clay & Flint b Derbyshire
Ellen 36
Ellen 4
Henry 1
On Vessel Ormutry?
Census ref RG13/3351/82/33
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Re: Family lived on canal boats
« Reply #17 on: Thursday 21 March 19 02:03 GMT (UK) »
FindMyPast shows the marriage of Henry Theobald and Ellen Keene took place at Melbourne, Derbyshire.

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