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Re: Prussia-Brieg military garrison
« Reply #9 on: Saturday 13 April 19 18:42 BST (UK) »
are you sure that is the place of death,
looks like a name to me
Similar annotations at the full page show places like Oppeln or Stoberau
so I assumed it's a place.
See the full page:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1OERhCCpOmYJk2dLBsU8YpLo_NOeKG7-I/view?usp=drivesdk

There were 60 numbered musketeer regiments, also known by their colonels in chief, ie von Rytz. I have the complete Prussian Army organisation lists for 1806. There is no von Rytz, presumably he had died recently and been replaced. Someone has been asking about the same matter on a Austro-Hungarian Army Site.

I found a Friedrich Jakob von Ruits (Rüts) on a German Wikipedia:
https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friedrich_Leopold_von_Ruits

His regiment was at the time most likely Infanterie-Regiment Nr. 28 (previously von Gentzkow) sinse 1792. Do you have any information about this regiment?
Wackermann
Molatta
Cuber
Cygan
Biela
Bielawski
Leibiniec
Dubeński
Wicher
Duzinkiewicz

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Re: Prussia-Brieg military garrison
« Reply #10 on: Monday 15 April 19 00:11 BST (UK) »
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Similar annotations at the full page show places like Oppeln or Stoberau
so I assumed it's a place.
See the full page:


If you look at the side notations, you will see that they all start with a D.
this is the abbrieviation for Dominus = priest or clergyman.
Following that you see the surname.
These are the names of the priests who performed the church ceremonies


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Re: Prussia-Brieg military garrison
« Reply #11 on: Monday 15 April 19 08:41 BST (UK) »
Afraid not Adam. Tried to find detailed order of battle for Valmy 1792. Couldn't find one.

You found Link to his life and career, retirement, pension and death in 1811.
Griffiths Llandogo, Mitcheltroy, Mon. and Whitchurch Here (Also Edwards),  18th C., Griffiths FoD 19th Century.

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Re: Prussia-Brieg military garrison
« Reply #12 on: Monday 15 April 19 10:33 BST (UK) »
Dave I think Adam is right. Some Musketeers have a note D ...., others have not. Is it possible that death in Brieg are no notation, but others, perhaps fallen in battle, have noted where they died. But what could the D stand for?

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Re: Prussia-Brieg military garrison
« Reply #13 on: Monday 15 April 19 11:18 BST (UK) »
Here is the history and battles of the Regiment 28  -  in German

http://www.preussenweb.de/regiment2.htm

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Re: Prussia-Brieg military garrison
« Reply #14 on: Monday 15 April 19 19:36 BST (UK) »
Hi Peonie, yes you (and Adam) were right.
An ask around and a closer look shows that:

1. they are place names

2. these are not deaths. They are marriage proclaimations

Peter Wanckermann Mousqu.
von des H. M. v. Balwin C. mit Jgfr.
Johanna Schroedern eines Gärtners
Tochter aus Repten Tarnowitzen Go(ry)
D. Schl. K.


Peter Wanckermann Musketeer
from the H. M. v. Balwin C(ompany) with spinster
Johanna Schroedern a gardeners daughter from Repten, Tarnowitzen Go(ry)

The town of Tarnwitz, had a district called Repty Śląskie (German: Repten)

The abbreviation D.
D. = Dimissiorale https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dimissorial_letters
or D. = Dorf  (Village)

The abbreviation Schl. K.
Schl. K. Could be the abbreiviation for Schlosskirche – castle church
There was a church in Brieg called „St.-Hedwig-Schlosskirche“


https://www.meyersgaz.org/place/20929007

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tarnowskie_G%C3%B3ry

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Repty_%C5%9Al%C4%85skie

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Re: Prussia-Brieg military garrison
« Reply #15 on: Monday 15 April 19 19:40 BST (UK) »

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Re: Prussia-Brieg military garrison
« Reply #16 on: Monday 15 April 19 21:34 BST (UK) »
Here is the history and battles of the Regiment 28  -  in German

http://www.preussenweb.de/regiment2.htm

Regards Peonie

Many thanks for that. Finally some detailed information about the regiment!
The other mystery is the birth place of the Musketeer Wanckermann. Was he recruited to reg.28  from Brieg or somewhere else? Why the marriage took place 120km from Jungfrau's parish?

Hi Peonie, yes you (and Adam) were right.
An ask around and a closer look shows that:

1. they are place names

2. these are not deaths. They are marriage proclaimations

Peter Wanckermann Mousqu.
von des H. M. v. Balwin C. mit Jgfr.
Johanna Schroedern eines Gärtners
Tochter aus Repten Tarnowitzen Go(ry)
D. Schl. K.


Peter Wanckermann Musketeer
from the H. M. v. Balwin C(ompany) with spinster
Johanna Schroedern a gardeners daughter from Repten, Tarnowitzen Go(ry)

The town of Tarnwitz, had a district called Repty Śląskie (German: Repten)

The abbreviation D.
D. = Dimissiorale https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dimissorial_letters
or D. = Dorf  (Village)

The abbreviation Schl. K.
Schl. K. Could be the abbreiviation for Schlosskirche – castle church
There was a church in Brieg called „St.-Hedwig-Schlosskirche“


https://www.meyersgaz.org/place/20929007

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tarnowskie_G%C3%B3ry

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Repty_%C5%9Al%C4%85skie

Dave

Dave many thanks for the research! It is a great help. You are right about the Repten- my last known ancestors were born there with a slightly different surname: Wackermann.
It is also possible that you are wright about the castle church:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St._Jadwiga%27s_Church,_Brzeg
The previous marriage cert was found in FS archives in Katholische Kirche Brieg (StKr. Brieg). Looking further into the marriage book I found a page with a cross out name: St. Hedwig zu Brieg so this looks like a same church.

However the dates are not quite wright. I thought the banns (11 Feb 1794) should be before the marriage itself (9 Feb 1794)?



 

Wackermann
Molatta
Cuber
Cygan
Biela
Bielawski
Leibiniec
Dubeński
Wicher
Duzinkiewicz

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Re: Prussia-Brieg military garrison
« Reply #17 on: Tuesday 16 April 19 02:19 BST (UK) »
There is a free E book available. „Kurzgefasste Stamm- und Rangliste aller Regimenter der Königlich-Preußischen Armee“

On page 52 it details the uniform worn by the soldiers of Regiment 28 . The Book finishes 1785. there is quite a lot available on the net if you enter in German.

Regards Peonie