Author Topic: Susan ROBERTSON born about 1832 Perthshire, parents Donald and Annie ROBERTSON  (Read 1750 times)

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Hi. I'm new to this forum and hoping someone can help me identify where Susan Robertson came from in Perthshire and especially any further information on her family.

Her 1906 death certificate lists her father as Donald Robertson (carpenter), mother unknown. Born in Perthshire, Scotland and been in Victoria, Australia 50 years. To date have not located how she came out to Australia). First child born was Annie Robertson Ching. (The Ching family is an old Devonshire family I have going back to the 1600's).

Her 1863 marriage certificate states birthplace Perthshire and parents as Donald Robertson (farmer) and Annie Robertson. Her residence was at "Tasman Cottage" in the Barrabool Hills which was owned by James and Catherine Anderson (nee Robertson). Catherine Anderson's death certificate also lists both Donald and Annie Robertson as parents. Catherine Anderson came out to Australia on the "Tasman" in 1848, as did her husband to be. She would have been born about 1821.

There is also a mention of a brother Peter ROBERTSON coming out to Australia but I have no further details.

Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thank you :)

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Re: Susan ROBERTSON born about 1832 Perthshire, parents Donald and Annie ROBERTSON
« Reply #1 on: Friday 22 March 19 05:59 GMT (UK) »

Death for Catherine ANDERSON (nee ROBERTSON), with parents Donald and Annie...

Using BDM VIC Index, I am not seeing this death. Can you identify it please.

Can you please list all the information on the marriage certificate, 1863.

Can you please list all the information on the death certificate, 1906.

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Re: Susan ROBERTSON born about 1832 Perthshire, parents Donald and Annie ROBERTSON
« Reply #2 on: Friday 22 March 19 06:59 GMT (UK) »
Thanks for replying.

Catherine Anderson's death was in 1868 reg 636 - I have a copy of the certificate.

All information from certificates was included in my original post except her age at death, which was 74 years and 1 month.

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Re: Susan ROBERTSON born about 1832 Perthshire, parents Donald and Annie ROBERTSON
« Reply #3 on: Friday 22 March 19 07:32 GMT (UK) »
Welcome to Rootschat, try member Throth on here!

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Re: Susan ROBERTSON born about 1832 Perthshire, parents Donald and Annie ROBERTSON
« Reply #4 on: Monday 25 March 19 20:48 GMT (UK) »
Gee, thanks Skoosh!

Perhaps you have forgotten, but our home-base is Blair Atholl parish - not the whole of Perthshire!

Anyway the ferrets say it looks like you have challenged them, so they have 1 hour to come up with something (they're not getting paid for having fun).

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Re: Susan ROBERTSON born about 1832 Perthshire, parents Donald and Annie ROBERTSON
« Reply #5 on: Monday 25 March 19 22:17 GMT (UK) »
Her 1863 marriage certificate states birthplace Perthshire and parents as Donald Robertson (farmer) and Annie Robertson.
Does it specify whether Robertson was Annie's married surname or her maiden surname?
Never trust anything you find online (especially submitted trees and transcriptions on Ancestry, MyHeritage, FindMyPast and other commercial web sites) unless it's an image of an original document - and even then be wary because errors can and do occur.

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Re: Susan ROBERTSON born about 1832 Perthshire, parents Donald and Annie ROBERTSON
« Reply #6 on: Monday 25 March 19 22:21 GMT (UK) »
Atworthy probably has searched all the likely BMD on ScotlandsPeople and drawn a blank.

The passenger list for the 'Tasman' has James Anderson aged 25 years as a single man from Kintail, Perthshire (a long distance apart).  Was he born in Kintail and moved to Perthshire in search of work?  Catharine Robertson aged 27, single woman and domestic servant from Perthshire, so she probably was in service and away from home.

Not many others from Perthshire - the ship left from Plymouth?

Other passengers worth noting who may be related:

a) Peter Robinson aged 22 years and single man from Redurdin, Perthshire.  Almost certain to be a Robertson from Redgorton in Perthshire.  1841 census for Redgorton (3/5) has a 15 year old Peter Robertson which would fit. No other Robertsons at (3/5) so not with family. (The 1841 census probably will only say 'born in Perthshire', which won't be much help)

b) Donald Robinson aged 28 years. Married man with wife Jane (24y) and daughter Nancy (1y) from Blairgowrie, Perthshire.  This will be another Robertson family.

Susan Robertson should be in the 1841 census aged about 10 years which normally would be too young to be a domestic servant, unless for a close relative. There are only about a dozen in the 5 - 15 age range, and the best bet is Blairgowrie (5/17) where 10 year old Susan probably is living with father Donald but mother Betsy, not Ann, (and not even certain if Betsy is a Robertson), 2 sisters Christian and Elizabeth. Susan is absent in the 1851 census.

The ferrets cannot spend credits on non-clients, so these are only guesses.

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Re: Susan ROBERTSON born about 1832 Perthshire, parents Donald and Annie ROBERTSON
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 26 March 19 00:12 GMT (UK) »
Hello if any of the following threads have any resonance to you heritage i am happy to chat further.

Elizabeth"Betty"PATULLOb17.7.1815GrangeofElcho.Rhynd.
d8.8.1860Lancefield[Rego8802].m.2.5.1840StMadoes.
JohnROBERTSONb.9.3.1820.Errol.d1861[rego7620]Mickleham


AndrewANDERSONb1837StMadoes.d28.3.1901.Bomhnomonh.Buried 30.3.1901Yarrawonga.
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m2.27.2.1871.Smrtn.ElizabethMILLSb13.4.1851WWR.d23.1.1911PtMlb

Margaret YOULO/YOWLO.Bapt.20.12.1675/6Twin.d.?.
m1.9.7.1708.Kettins.John ANDERSON.b.?.d.1711.buried24.2.1711.m2.11.11.1712.Denhead.[Kettins]Robert WILKIE.b.?.d.?


Lillias YOULO .b.?.d.?.m.22.6.1685Kettins.John ROBERTSON.b.?.d.?

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Re: Susan ROBERTSON born about 1832 Perthshire, parents Donald and Annie ROBERTSON
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 04 April 19 00:09 BST (UK) »
 [/quote]Does it specify whether Robertson was Annie's married surname or her maiden surname?
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Generally the Victorian BDM's use the mother's maiden name not the married surname, and if unknown, they normally just right unknown. It's not always 100% correct so I won't assume anything at this stage :)