Thomas Roberts, born Beaumaris, Anglesey c1834 Bushey Chapel marriage

[Rowleyrosie]

Thomas Roberts, a stock and share broker later living in Oxton, Cheshire, gives his place of birth (abt 1834) in three censuses (1871/81/91) as Llansadwrn, Beaumaris, Anglesey, Wales.
I have found a baptism for a Thomas Roberts in the non-conformist records for Llansadwrn in 1835 which may be he, but I don't know how many Thomas Roberts there were in the area, as I suspect it is not an uncommon name in Wales! I have also had difficulty identifying him in the earlier censuses.
Family records indicate that he married Eliza Mary Clark at Bushey Chapel on 18 July 1861.
Does anyone know what or where Bushey Chapel was? Perhaps non-conformist, although it would have to have been one licensed for marriages if so. I don't know Bushey and have been unable to find out much about what chapels there were or when they were operating. The tin chapel there which was demolished a few years ago was apparently opened in 1871 so the marriage wasn't there. There are no results from searching the Hertfordshire archives name index, although they appear to include parish registers but they make no mention of non-conformist records.
I would like to find out their places of abode, any occupations, the names and occupations of their respective fathers,  witnesses and all the other genealogical goodies marriage certificates give you! I know that I could buy the marriage certificate but am doing this for a friend so am trying to minimise costs for him if the information is available elsewhere.
I would be grateful for any local knowledge on Bushey chapels and ideas on where any records might be. Many thanks in advance.

[CaroleW]

Can you clarify what “family records” indicate his marriage in 1861? 

Is he in Cheshire or Wales in 1871/81/91

You can buy a copy of the marriage cert from the GRO

September qtr 1861 Watford volume 3a page 399

[CaroleW]

I cannot see a census entry matching that birthyear/specific birthplace.  Where and when was Eliza born?

[Rowleyrosie]

Eliza was born in Bath and is consistent about that in her census returns. In 1861 she is living in Birkenhead, Cheshire with her mother, both from Bath, three months before the Bushey marriage.
Thomas is living in Ashleigh Villa, Alton Road, Oxley in Cheshire in 1871 and gives his place of birth as Anglesea Llansadwrn (the census record interprets this as Anglesea Lancashire but I don't read it as such on the original image and there doesn't appear to be such a place in Lancashire whereas there is a Llansadwrn in Anglesey). In 1881 he is at Lorne Road, Oxton and gives his place of birth as Anglesea, Beaumaris (Llansadwrn and Beaumaris are three miles apart.) In 1891 he is at Little Meols, West Kirby on the Wirral where he gives his place of birth as Beaumaris Llansadwrn.
The elderly friend for whom I am researching is descended from his son Idwal who appears on all three and the families are consistent on all three entries so it is the same Thomas Roberts. Interestingly, Idwal called his only son Egerton which I see is the part of Birkenhead that Eliza was living in in 1861.
I have asked my friend to clarify where he got the marriage date and place from. He may well have to pay for the marriage certificate eventually, I was just interested to know whether anyone with local knowledge of Bushey would have any suggestions what the reference to a chapel meant.

[CaroleW]

Found them now in 1871.  Strange that Eliza should be living in Birkenhead prior to the marriage but then marry in Hertfordshire?

In both 1871 and 1881 Thomas is shown as born 1836

You need to buy a copy of the 1861 marriage cert to establish the name of Thomas's father and his occupation to enable tracing on earlier censuses. 

https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/

[CaroleW]

Keep this 1841 entry in mind until you confirm his fathers name.  Llangadwaladr  Anglesey.  All born Anglesey

John Roberts    35 agricultural labourer
Elenor  30
Elenor  8
John  6
Thomas  5
Mary  4
Robert  1
HO107 Piece 1359/4  Folio 18 Page 11

However - there are other matches in Anglesey - fathers Richard, Robert etc so knowing his fathers name is the key

[Rowleyrosie]

Thanks so much, Carole. My friend tells me that he has the marriage certificate (an old one, possibly original) but hadn't shown it to me, probably not realising how much additional information I could get from it. He tells me that the church is shown as Bushey Chapel and there is some interesting information about the Primitive Methodist church in Bushey on the web. He can't imagine why she got married in Bushey either!
His father's name was William who was a joiner and builder. Thomas gives an Oxley address.
Her father's name was Henry who was a printer and she gives her place of residence as Chapel House, Bushey. The father's name confirms that I have found the right family in Bath for her baptism.
So I can search a bit more now for Thomas's birth.
Thanks for your help.

[CaroleW]

Is this the baptismal entry you mentioned in your opening post as it  seems to tick all the boxes

Name    Thomas Roberts
Event Type    Baptism
Christening Date    05 Aug 1835
Christening Place    Beaumaris, Anglesey
Father's Name    William Roberts
Mother's Name    Ann Roberts
Affiliate Publication Number    RG4_3784

Now - If you could just get hold of a copy of the actual entry to confirm William's occupation??

Also from Family Search

Wales, Anglesey, Parish Registers
Name    William Roberts
Event Type    Marriage
Event Date    29 Apr 1825
Event Place    Beaumaris, Anglesey, Wales
Spouse's Name    Ann Rowlands

[Rowleyrosie]

Yet again, thank you, Carole, that certainly looks to fit the information I have. The friend I have been researching for is off to Argentina tomorrow to visit newly rediscovered family there so I won’t be able to get hold of the certificate for a few weeks, I don’t think. I shall be interested to see who the witnesses were, too.  I might get him to photograph it for me if he has it with him on his travels. And I’m going to try to see and record/photograph any other certificates he has, when he’s back so that all of his information is to hand.
I haven’t researched any Welsh ancestors before and he also has Scottish family so I’m on a new learning curve, as most of my own family were Midland nail makers who reckoned travelling five miles was a bit adventurous! So all the helpful advice on here is much appreciated.