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child born 1874 Wellington, New Zealand
« on: Monday 25 March 19 20:07 GMT (UK) »
This child was born, (no father's name on registration). Her mother was from Denmark and the informant was given, as per scan, - I was wondering whether in fact this is in latin?  It doesn't seem to be anyone's name. 
Any help would be appreciated.

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Re: child born 1874 Wellington, New Zealand
« Reply #1 on: Monday 25 March 19 20:59 GMT (UK) »
Doesn't look Latin to me

 Name (which I can't read - is it Tru?on Cimibuter/bush - or something similar?), sio (?), Mother, Willis Street,   December 24    RC Hammerton.

Which bit are you asking about?   :-\  (Probably the bit I can't read!  ;D)

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Gaunt, Ransom, McNally, Stanfield, Kimberley. (Tasmania)
Brown, Johnstone, Eskdale, Brand  (Dumfriesshire,  Scotland)
Booth, Bruerton, Deakin, Wilkes, Kimberley
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Duncan (Fife, Devon), Hugh, Blee (Cornwall)
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Re: child born 1874 Wellington, New Zealand
« Reply #2 on: Monday 25 March 19 21:07 GMT (UK) »
I do know the mother's name, (and didn't want to show in the www) but it is the informant's name which seems very strange.  I read it possibly as "Frucon Cimibutu" or "Truton Cimibuctu"  - it looked latin to me as it didn't look like any name that I have researched so far.  Tks

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Re: child born 1874 Wellington, New Zealand
« Reply #3 on: Monday 25 March 19 21:09 GMT (UK) »
Oh, and the mother was from Denmark (from all accounts that we know)  Had only been in New Zealand for a few months and then found herself pregnant and then the child is registered as dying 34 months later.


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Re: child born 1874 Wellington, New Zealand
« Reply #4 on: Monday 25 March 19 21:10 GMT (UK) »
As the child was illegitimate, I thought it may be a term they used if the mother did not register the death - or wasn't able to because of language difficulties.

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Re: child born 1874 Wellington, New Zealand
« Reply #5 on: Monday 25 March 19 21:14 GMT (UK) »
It would seem to be written in a different hand - ie, by a different person, than the registrar who has written the rest of it.
Perhaps as you say, because of language difficulties, the registrar got the person to write it themselves.

There is also that little word - 'sio', underneath, written in that hand.

Might be an 's' in the surname.
Truton Cimibustu

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Does it give a mother's name of the child's death registration?
Lane, Burgess: Cheshire. Finney, Rogers, Gilman:Derbys
Cochran, Nicol, Paton, Bruce:Scotland. Bertolle:London
Bainbridge, Christman, Jeffs: Staffs

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Re: child born 1874 Wellington, New Zealand
« Reply #6 on: Monday 25 March 19 21:24 GMT (UK) »
Yes, I have the mother's name.

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Re: child born 1874 Wellington, New Zealand
« Reply #7 on: Monday 25 March 19 21:29 GMT (UK) »
And it doesn't look anything like what's written for the informant's name although it says 'mother'?
Lane, Burgess: Cheshire. Finney, Rogers, Gilman:Derbys
Cochran, Nicol, Paton, Bruce:Scotland. Bertolle:London
Bainbridge, Christman, Jeffs: Staffs

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Re: child born 1874 Wellington, New Zealand
« Reply #8 on: Monday 25 March 19 21:47 GMT (UK) »
The mother's name is quite straightforward and easy to read and I know what happened the next few years to the mother.  So I was hoping to find out who the informant was just to help with connections to the mother. 

The little "sim" written underneath could have been put there as to phonetically speaking (in English).And yes, it would appear this is written by a separate person to that of the registrar.